Attention Atheists i have questions.

Hello.
I was thinking a bit today and realised some stuff, and theres also things i
wounder about because i see this ''Atheist'' word pop up everywhere.


I just dont understand what all this atheism is about,
Its like some new trend. When you meet someone on the internet he
always start of like this: ''Hello my name is mike and im an atheist''

come on.. does it really matter who you are.
If every non beliver gonna greet every human they see and first of all
tell them they dont belive in god, i think atheists might be the one looking
dumbest in a Battle Atheist vs God or whatever.
But it would be tiring for my ears if i have to see this word pop up on every
site im visiting. It sounds like someone felt offended or trying to show some strenght or smthn.

i dunno.
But my eyes have started catching this word everytime i see it, and it always
felt like its some group made up to trash and argue religious people and it confuses
me that some of these people i see tries to confess that there is no existence.
So if that what many of you are doing, you are actually trying to take something
away from people that have only 1 thing to rely on in order to function correctly in their life situation.


So in this theory.
Before it was:
Belivers - Neutral
Now it is:
Belivers - Nonbelivers. Wich for me sounds like: Went from neutral to ''against'' wich is a offensive.
If religions are about converting others? you just creating a new religion.


Just my thoughts tho, but i already know i misunderstand the concept because i didnt
understand wikipedia when i tried to research about this.
I dont seem to understand those things as i dont write or read english so well.


I dont know which category i end up in, but im really not beliving in a god.

I dont belive in 1 or many Gods.
I dont belive in 1 or more gods creating the planet.
But i neither belive in evolution.
Because i belive in ''Aliens'' or different kinds of humans.
I also belive in Doomsday and and Big Bang.


Also i belive that all religions in the very end have the same kind of ''god'' and that
this god in the end are beings from another planet that they might have been in contact with?
god is just a word created to name something ''paranormal'' that happened?

I belive in the universe, and all the planets.
I do belive in Aliens and other beings.
I also belive we have been visited by aliens.
These aliens arent the ''aliens'' we see in movies, these are the same humans as us, just at a
higher and better level and. Maybe they looked like us thousands of years ago? i dunno.

So back to the evolution, i dont belive we came from the monkeys, i just belive that we came
from somewhere and there are more like us out there but at a higher level. and maybe someone
at a lower level, some animal like beings on some planet.. i dont belive in evolution of monkeys
because it doesnt make sense when we are enormously different in ALL ways. And it doesnt make
sense that the monkeys in 1000000000 ''+/- lol'' years will look like us.

I also belive that we had abilities with us all along (wich some might call God, Jesus?) i dont call it
god or jesus, i just call it energies being mastered correctly. I even had proof of being healed by a
human. I also seen a human control a fire while telling a spirit/ghost to leave this dimention and go
to where's hes supposed to.. She lit a candle and made the flame go very very high upwards and
made the curtains in my room wave just like there was some kind of wind.

an astral level? life after death? different dimentions?


i kinda belive in this kind of stuff..
Im not christian, muslim, buddist, hindu or whatever.
I never pray to anything.

I belive in the 6th sense, third eye.
i mean much of that ''paranormal'' stuff seems pretty real for me.
I also hate the television because it gives you shit you dont care about and still
wasting your time watching instead of thinking about life and posibilities.


So, Can a atheist have these belives?


I do NOT belive in ''God''
There is not a creator others than that energy needed for the big bang to happend..
that energy that drives us humans, that energy that gives us what we have, and the
ability to ''function'' and be alive.

So who am i? and why does the word Atheist pop up everywhere? and why does these
people make themselves look so desperat.

Is This a category where Non-God-Belivers-with-different-belives gather?
well then im in.

I kinda need an explanation on the concept and why some people seem to use most of
their time to tell the world how they dont belive in god.
Well i dont either, but im not bragging about it.

Have a nice day and cheer.
No offending meant in general.

 

Your a agnostic or a scientoligist.

 

Thank you. Maybe someone can explain.

 

It's very contradictive.
Atheists hate the in your face agenda of religious beliefs but they're as bad and as tedious as religious fanatics are when it comes to dribbling what they believe.
No one cares, just go lay down in a hole.

 

The Wiki on Atheism is quite concise...If you can't understand it, tough luck.
I doubt it could be better explained.

When Christian values begin creeping into U.S. domestic and foreign policy(as it has been increasingly) that's when this Atheist gets upset...
otherwise I couldn't give less of a shit what imaginary nonsense y'all wanna believe.

ZW

 

No use getting upset with Christian politics in a Christian country. =p

 

Atheists are just non-believers; some of us are militant, some of us have no interest in such matters, some of us are friendly to many philosophies and beliefs, some of us go back and forth on such issues.

To say all atheists are militant is like saying all Christians are fundamentalists.

And I don't hate the in-your-face nature of religion at all. I hate the sneaky brainwashing bullshit of organized religion and that the religious feel the right to make laws enforcing their morals on the whole population. If Western religion was really in-your-face, in these modern times, I don't think anyone would believe.

You don't see many Atheists attacking Buddhism. Why? Cause the practitioners don't oppress or manipulate people or science.

 

I agree with Duck.

 

Bullshit, our constitution mandates church and state separation. Period.

 

• Here's a nifty list of reasons an Atheist might be passionate and vocal about their Atheism.
• ( You may find the site interesting as well)http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/jeff_lowder/society.html
• They think atheism is true
• They find it interesting
• They want to protect the rights of fellow atheists
• They recently de-converted and it fills a void previously filled by religion
• They want to find good answers to questions about atheism
• They have been approached repeatedly by religionists who want to convert them
• They are concerned about attempts by religionists to write their beliefs and practices into law, and want to stop them
• They want others to experience the benefits of atheism

ZW

 

Fascist right wing agendas are squashing my freedoms and ruining my life.


Heil Harper!

 

You can believe in whatever you like or not believe in anything at all.

Whichever choice you make you don't have to call yourself anything.

Unless you believe in labels.

 

separation of church and state...

 

I've never once had that experience. I won't bother responding to the rest of the original post because it seems that the other posts have already said it all. I just thought that part was kind of funny.

 

Hello.

Atheism is the disbelief in a god, any god. Pat Roberston for example could be considered an atheist because I presume he doesn't believe in Zeus or Poseidon both of which were at one time taken as very serious deities with many followers.

Yes I know what you mean. I agree very annoying, many of them are plagiarists themselves, rarely saying anything backed by their own reasoning.

 

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I'm a Christian and I agree with Zombiewolf on this. Christians are the majority religion in this country, but the United States was never intended to be a "Christian nation" in the sense that phrase is used by the religious right in this country. Washington, Jefferson and Adams made that very clear in their writings. The First Amendment establishment clause and free exercise clause give legal expression to that concept. But the religious right has never respected those legalities. I'm concerned that the advances of religious fundamentalism, in league with the Republican Party, will chip away at those precious freedoms. For example, the Discovery Institute, which devotes itself to promoting Intelligent Design over Darwinian evolution, draws support from such fat cats as the Ahmanson Foundation, whose founder said his goal is "the total integration of biblical law into our lives'; The MacLellan Foundation, dedicated to "the infallibility of Scripture"; and the Stewardship Foundation, devoted to "the propagation of the Christian Gospel By evangelical and missionary work." The Supreme Court decision in Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission makes it possible for gazillionaire individuals and organizations to contribute unlimited amounts of money to political campaigns anonymously. Historian Charles Freeman, in A New History of Early Christianity and The Closing of the Western Mind details the ways in which the simple teachings of Jesus on behalf of the poor and social outcasts, were reshaped to serve the interests of the powers that be in church councils of the fourth and fifth centuries. It took centuries for Western Europe to escape from the intellectual bondage of those developments. I hope it doesn't happen again. Complacency is dangerous.

 

To the OP: It sounds to me as if you've come to the same conclusion I have, which is actually probably the realest sense of atheism there is.

You've been able to break free of the long-held notion that humans are a separate entity from other animals, but we're not. We're simply the dominant species on this planet. Statistically, I think life on planets other than earth is a certainty, and most likely are millenniums ahead of us in terms of technology, so being visited by them, like we've begun to explore Mars, is also very likely. I think just like we've gone from believing the world is flat to the world is round, we will eventually realize there are greater beings in existence than us, and our psychology will change accordingly. These beings are not gods though, because, like us, are also probably inferior to some other alien race to them. Nature is nature on any planet, and all the physical laws in effect here affect all other parts of existence the same way.

As for the subject of atheism, I'm an atheist, and I hold the thoughts of all major religions in high regard because I think they're the direct result of alien encounters and the efforts made to describe said experiences in a way that the public can understand the values they're trying to teach; most people today couldn't wrap their mind around the fact that we're just as much animals as squirrels or dogs and that there are superior beings to us, imagine trying to do that with people who were less evolved than us two thousand years ago.

I would say the big problem comes in simply because atheists are smarter on average than Christians. Atheists don't believe they know the truth, so they keep searching for it. Christians believe they know the truth, so they don't keep searching for it, making atheists generally more enlightened. The difference in critical thinking and argumentative skills comes into play when atheists and Christians have these debates because atheists use logic in these arguments, using scientific reasoning to defend their point, whereas most Christians don't know much about their own religion, and know next to nothing about the sciences, and therefore usually make weak arguments. When an experienced "arguer", so to speak, senses a weak argument, they instantly attack it and try to hit home with their point. In that sense, most religious debates are pointless and make me want to hit my head on a wall.

However, there are some people who are devout Christians that I would drop most things I was doing to have a religious debate with them. It's the ones who are smart and can actually use reason to back up their arguments that make for good discussion, it's just that they're so few and far between that we atheists rarely make the effort to have those discussions unless we have some kind of agenda or there's actually a chance something may come out of it.

In short, I think the lack of arguing and reasoning skills on the part of most people in general, and by extension, religion, and the usually advanced arguing and reasoning skills of atheists just makes us gravitate from arguing with those of faith. If someone that actually knows what they're talking about comes along, well, that's a different story

 

Do you have any evidence for that claim, other than your own impressions? Really smart people don't make such sweeping generalizations unless they can back them up. Judging from some of the posts on this forum, I'd say that you're on thin ice here.


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smart people believe science over really old books...

 

I'd argue that "sweeping generalizations" may not hold true for the whole group, but they're just a tool we use to make statements that usually hold more truth than not. I think words of wisdom and sayings are useful in the sense that they give us an idea of what to expect and it's up to us to measure it's accuracy and how to interpret that for ourselves. All that comes into our minds is information, it's up to us to process it for ourselves (I have a very individualistic, internal philosophy on life).

But back on topic, the path of atheism is enlightening in it's own way. Atheism is to not differ to an ultimate authority, but to look for the answers yourself. Just taking the time to consider what the information you have been given or not is really accurate or logical makes you smarter because you don't take things at face value and actually question the things around you, which could very well be and just might be wrong. Just considering possibilities other than the one you think is true makes you a smarter person. While being open-minded leads to a lot more misses than not, most misses are insignificant and most hits are insightful in some way. The thought processes are different.

Though, realistically, I'd say this mostly applies to Christianity. The history of Christianity has been to undoubtedly appose anything that challenges it's doctrines and beliefs, and I believe the stance Christianity has taken towards the sciences is still debilitating to the advancement of society today.