BBC Strike

Discussion in 'U.K.' started by Claire, May 23, 2005.

  1. Claire

    Claire Senior Member

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    Jeremy Paxman refused to cross the picket line... but old fave Mr Terry Wogan went to work as usual...

    Scab or Not?

    Let's have a heated debate:eek:

     
  2. showmet

    showmet olen tomppeli

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    I wonder how much this is a hangover from the change of management brought about as a consequence of the Hutton inquiry. The new management style seems to be about imposing its iron will on the creatives and the journalists within the BBC rather than involving them. People like Mark Byford and Mark Thompson who are supporting this were the ones who rushed to back the government in its case against the BBC and seem in this regard to be little more than New Labour stooges.

    It's unlikely that cutting 20% of BBC workers (including relatively few management) could be achieved without seriously altering the nature of the Beeb. And to do that without negotiation with the unions is just rude.
     
  3. Zonk

    Zonk Banned

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    'A grievance to one is a grievance to all, NEVER cross a picket line!'

    Scabs the lot of them!:mad:
     
  4. Jaz Delorean

    Jaz Delorean Senior Member

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    my dad works for the beeb, and he actually agrees with what the dude is trying to do, even though it might affect his job... :confused:
     
  5. matthew

    matthew Almost sexy

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    Anecdote The news progrmmes are full of repeats anyway..those nice people within News 24 did a great job ... jeremy paxman not on for a night 'The end of the world is upon us'. Maybe if these kind of people were on a little less money then not so many jobs would have been cut ?.
     
  6. Ellied

    Ellied Senior Member

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    i do like it when there is a rucus at the bbc. i think terry wogan is an awful scab! you would have thought that a good,well respected morning radio dj like our dear friend tez would have been more supportive to his colleagues...im not happy wogan!! grr
     
  7. matthew

    matthew Almost sexy

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    I wonder of those that went on 'strike' did it for appearance sake only..more than anything else.. The 'big guns' protecting there pay checks..?.
     
  8. Claire

    Claire Senior Member

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    I very much doubt the big guns would be as effected as the rest.
     
  9. matthew

    matthew Almost sexy

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    Thats true..still, taking away my cynical thought and i am still thinking they did it to show some support for there 'comrades' in part for selfish reasons.
     
  10. Claire

    Claire Senior Member

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    well the self always comes in to the decisions we make, whether we realise it or not
     
  11. saffronfrancisburnet

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    hi there

    well scab.. no one should cross a picket line
    not even the workers for a capitalist company who produce
    tv programmes with the government in good view..{ie the miners strike
    in the 1980s which i grew up in and look at the tv coverage,the anti bnp
    march , poll tax march ,all coverage to make the working class people
    look BAD.......then....the anti war demos not much there either....so you see
    not just strike,but shut down and take it back for the people.....}

    this is all part of the system that capitalists .profit makers get from the poor
    through taxs......those...
    who watch their channels......who believe some of what they are told.....

    end bbc itv and cable tv, get rid of all right wing bosses.....
    let the people run the stations more people could be involved...
    not the fat cats who defend many government
    ideas even if they run a show that reflects on a little
    of the reality in the world..to please the lefties.....
    ie faith the miners film, etc...
    this is all part of slavery.......our slavery to capitalism....

    it will not change unless we end a world for profit
    no one will gain alot from this strike,because
    they go back to work for the same people
    who caused them to strike.........again capitalists who
    are looking to cut back ,for profits before looking
    after their workers......

    thank you for interesting question
    i feel terry wogan should not be on tv
    how the hell did he get on there, he is a racist man really
    and defends the right wing in very
    obvious ways..ie uro song contest
    he still has those little digs at other cultures
    whilst trying to hid his irish tongue...
    poor man .....
    get rid of him ..


    lovenpeace from saff
     
  12. Zonk

    Zonk Banned

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  13. matthew

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    Do you watch TV ? I can't recognise much about what you are cross about..TV shows the reality of the world quite a lot... TV can't be as biased as yourself and if TV was ever taken over by 'the people' (your kind of people i imagine) how do you think it would reflect reality any better ? .. It is run by normal people already.. The only thing i dislike is it is full of contradictory information and panders to the middle ground to much..but thats the supposed fair and balanced POV i suppose. It would be nice if TV was more like this and other forums and had more varied opinions and a bit more 'grit' it is very safe and ordered. But realy if you filled TV with the 'fuck bush' (ther good and the bad kind) posse or 'pro war' (ther good and the bad kind) and all the other multitude of peoples opinions..it would be a editorial mess.. and people would turn off in droves..Thankfuly if you discriminate what you watch and don't watch crap, TV can be a blessing and highly informative (even if you don't agree with the information)..

    I think the BBCis fat and bloated and has more staff than it actualy requires especialy within the news department.. some broadcasts have outside broadcast just for style purposes and nothing more.. do we realy need andrew marr outside No. 10 for a 3 minute segment ?..nope. All these things have been looked at and discussed by the media watchers..but nothing changes. I liked the stripped down presentation with ordinary reporters and not 'darlings' like natash kaplinsky and such..who was probably out shopping on the day of the strike.. Jeremy paxman had to take the day of it is a almost given that he would not cross the line..almost suicide to his career i suppose. I noticed they picked a day with no real 'clout' if they had picked aThursday then i would have been impressed.

    Terry wogan is not rascist at all..so he has a little giggle and his comments are annoying but far short of rascism i think... He is just extremly bored and thats his wit, he takies the piss out of the individual whoever or werever they may come from... If he was rascist why would he do it in the first place.. do you realy think he would be allowed back after so many years if he was rascist?...be reasonable.
     
  14. showmet

    showmet olen tomppeli

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    Just a point of fact ... the BBC is a not-for-profit public corporation, in no conceivable way can it be construed as a "capitalist company".
     
  15. saffronfrancisburnet

    saffronfrancisburnet Member

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    hi there

    many tv programmes are just that
    programmed to how we are in time
    to think and feel,with the underlining
    fact that this is slavery with in our way forward
    in thinking,keeping the very essence
    of change in the background...........
    no movement of reactions that pass
    anger,



    yes i feel tv offer a little truth
    but always after the horror of the time..
    and also it only offers a light relief
    after the day,to laugh or focus
    on the screen ,off many views..
    many lost reminders of our world
    the real one.not a scripted
    empty soap opera ,ie eastenders
    or political.which will only allow
    what the government allows....
    do you really believe these companies
    tell us ie bbc itv what is truth
    every last bit,,

    and yes any company which it built around the system
    for the fat cats is a capitalists idea.
    other wise why are people striking against
    its our hand that pays the wage.or sacks them.
    wages are here because profit is the means
    to an end....pensions.......the last payout a company
    is supposed to do whthin this system.....

    so
    to end this, is to end who runs and who
    writes what listeners hear which is
    what the writers want the people
    to hear.......not always truth
    just words of slight reflection of
    the reality we live within ,ie
    again the miners strike.......
    try the truth it may hurt but
    its for all to know....
     
  16. saffronfrancisburnet

    saffronfrancisburnet Member

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    hi there
    good comment

    of cause they ignore racism
    just look back on tv
    no little comments about other people
    should not be ignored its all part
    of the programming of peoples thougths..
    towards eachother well
    other cultures....being better more english...
    imperial.....

    do you honestly believe they dont see racism
    in the workers on tv...... no they choose to ignore
    its a company who promotes more than
    truth its damn tv....it has to entertain
    a mass of slaves........

    love npeace from saff

    dont ignore the little bits
    they mount up .towards this world.....
     
  17. showmet

    showmet olen tomppeli

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    While I do enjoy your poetry ... I really feel the need to say ... wtf? lol!:D
     
  18. Claire

    Claire Senior Member

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    roflmao :p
     
  19. DoktorAtomik

    DoktorAtomik Closed For Business

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    What a load of bollocks. It's people like you who give socialism a bad name. Ever heard of freedom of thought? Y'know, where we actually think for ourselves rather than blindly following dogma? How can you possibly make such a sweeping generalisation as the one in that statement? Every individual must follow their own conscience and decide for themselves the rights and wrongs of each situation. Just because they don't happen to agree with your moral assessment of the situation, it doesn't make them a 'scab'. Are you suggesting that people should always follow the will of a trade union regardless of their own personal opinions?
     
  20. SpliffVortex

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    well im piss off . and got nothing to with BBC.
     
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