WHAT A SUPRISE... Your boardering on being offensive Mr Stevens... lets not 'go there' eh !! The fact that your grasping any negative imagery and ignoring most if not all other images ..is achieving what ?. [this part i'm sure you will ignore again]. I watched all of that... it was interesting. Did you watch it all ? or did you just like the accusations ?? my my..your in love with your self... hehehehe
Dear matthew Yup, Amen =) Come on! Your sources of news is different from mine, I keep an eye on both, western news and Arabic news, and the objective one, who gives documents and proofs. I watched it all, it was really ….*sigh* Yup, I am , why not I am a Muslim, Allah's creature =) in other replys I wrote Cat Stevens' latest threads =) ,actually I did that for a reason =) the reason is...ops *off topic* hehehe peace, love, honesty and sincerity,Peace and loveYours Sincerely, Cat Stevens My latest threads Note: Silly, Irrelevant, and the like, responses, posts, comments will be ignored (it depends on my mood and time if I won't ignore them), taking off the topic is losers' style, ask yourself: will you write such response if the writer wasn't a Muslim!
? You're posting images that are one sided ... you HAVE NOT posted where those images came from..and WHAT the back story to them is/was.. I'm sorry thats not being objective / honest or sincere....nothing to do with ''I keep an eye on both, western news and Arabic news, and the objective one, who gives documents and proofs.'' ... OBJECTIVE YOU..hahahahahahahaha oh i'm sorry...more like trying to find negative images and things to say...i suppose somebody has to do it..and you do it erm quite well. Worth another thread..if your willing to respond with out ignoring things..it would be worthwhile. Just don't take up half my screen with your sig' ..thats all i ask.. it's almost getting there.. I won't add anything more that list just yet...
you should take your own advice; here, let me help you: "torture is forbidden by the Geneva Convention, both in cases of internal conflicts (Convention 1, Art. 3, Sect. 1A), wounded combatants, (Convention 1, Art. 12), civilians in occupied territories (Convention IV, Art. 32), civilians in international conflicts (Protocol 1, Art. 75, sec. 2Ai), and civilians in internal conflicts (Protocol II, Art 4, Sec 2A)" http://www.genevaconventions.org suspect insurgents aren't exactly part of the Iraqi military, therefore they are civilians. p.s. two wrongs don't make a right. just because they don't play by the rules, doesn't mean we are exempt from them, since the UN pays great attention to what we do also.
matthew because the thread is about this side =) From Iraq no need to know who took these photoes or which newspapers published it, the pictures are talking themselves, Have you never seen such things in newspapers and TV , myself, A lot I already said what the back story is/was about!!! Yub, objective ME Yub, people should know =) Thanks ^^ I already made one about that video. Hahaha, Come on! =) Buy larger screen, I wish it will be succeeded in getting into your heart ^^, Amen. As you wish =) Peace, love, honesty and sincerity, Yours Sincerely, Cat Stevens My latest threads Note: Silly, Irrelevant, and the like, responses, posts, comments will be ignored (it depends on my mood and time if I won't ignore them), taking off the topic is losers' style, ask yourself: will you write such response if the writer wasn't a Muslim!
Both those boys..should not be subjected to that .. I don't think that first image is that fair though.. like i said Cs is just posting images with no context..wrong wrong wrong...I think CS gets my message by now though I did read it several times and then again several times.. Possibly a unfair comment by myself [unusual knee jerk reaction from myself].... i'll admit that.. i should have said their is no torture within those pictures..AND LEFT IT AT THAT. I know... i do think these kinds of images are usefull.. but should not be used to convey something that is not their.. We all appreciate some soldiers are heavy handed and some go over the line.. to me this is not occuring within these pictures...CS is slightly manipulating these images.. i guess it depends how sensitive you are.. Clearly we only see a portion of what is occuring..thats all i am saying.. I don't mean to dismiss these images..
Peace and loveYours Sincerely, Cat Stevens My latest threads Note: Silly, Irrelevant, and the like, responses, posts, comments will be ignored (it depends on my mood and time if I won't ignore them), taking off the topic is losers' style, ask yourself: will you write such response if the writer wasn't a Muslim!
Do people know what do those ''Shia'' mean by this?I know, YUO, do you know? =)Totally, irrelevantThey are doing so twice every single year Peace and loveYours Sincerely, Cat Stevens My latest threads Note: Silly, Irrelevant, and the like, responses, posts, comments will be ignored (it depends on my mood and time if I won't ignore them), taking off the topic is losers' style, ask yourself: will you write such response if the writer wasn't a Muslim!
matthew images are talking themselves I wish someday you will be in such a situation Look at his cheek! Peace and loveYours Sincerely, Cat Stevens My latest threads Note: Silly, Irrelevant, and the like, responses, posts, comments will be ignored (it depends on my mood and time if I won't ignore them), taking off the topic is losers' style, ask yourself: will you write such response if the writer wasn't a Muslim!
Why do i feel if i posted something contary..it would not quite go down the same way.. limitations of what is acceptable within this site i suppose.. oh well.. it's a small price to pay...not quite my thing anyway. Yeah i have seen images like that before... they are saying differing things to me .. of course it matters where and what those images are about.. Soldiers inspects US mortar fire.. 3 dead.. I could make any thing up. actuality: A U.S. soldider secures the site of a suicide car bomb explosion in west of Baghdad earlier this week. (Photo: Ali Al-Saadi / AFP-Getty Images) http://www.worldpress.org/Mideast/2080.cfm CAN'T WE AT LEAST AGREE ON THAT ?.. BEST OF BESt (THE US ARMY) Images ... thanks for being so informative.. ? questionable / debateable... I missed it.. i can imagine it's content though..flag it up if you like. I think it is relative..a bigger screen will just make everything bigger.. that would be worse i reckon... I have a heart..and abuse pisses me off... no doubt about it. I'm sorry your 'emotional' pictures i have to question a little.. i never intented to drag my point out this long.. You show a image of somebody being restrained..and then wish for me to decry the US troops.. ?.. I know where you are comeing from and the extreme measures you use... so we won't have the same response as each othe..i'm afraid.
Some people are so sensitive regarding the opposite truth Peace and loveYours Sincerely, Cat Stevens My latest threads Note: Silly, Irrelevant, and the like, responses, posts, comments will be ignored (it depends on my mood and time if I won't ignore them), taking off the topic is losers' style, ask yourself: will you write such response if the writer wasn't a Muslim!
The truth is he is being restrained Who is he...?He is being restrained..for a reason..if not [and a hint at it's source might help] would say if it is unwarranted. This is YOU being oversensitive...''look at his cheek'' ????? how ridiculous are you going to get with this Mr Stevens..
now this is a more accurate assessment this also occurs (obviously) with network news here in america. ABC, C-BS, NBC, FOX news...they all show only what they are permitted to show, with undertones of a certain political bias, to influence their respective audiences; again, this is under close watch of the CIA and FCC. You'll never see the pictures of american soldier's bodies recovered, or hear the reports of soldiers commiting suicides, so many people are naively impervious to the other things that go on; but of course, you will see children and families greeting the soldiers with open arms and smiles, because it's good for national PR, and it keeps people thinking that we're over there doing good, and succeeding. when the "war" was underway back in 2003, many children were interviewed (and probably told what to say, as they have limited scope of war) and said lots of cliche sentiment, obviously to sway public opinion. children are impressionable, and adults coddle over their points of view, especially if it simply reflects theirs. meanwhile, if you watch BBC news, you see a bigger picture of what's going on out there than say, C-BS nightly news.
extreme methods mathew .? both sides use extreme methods ...................wind yer neck in lad ........
matthew And what it was? Suspected suspected i.e. phobia, they shouldn't treat suspected people this way, I don't think the US will let the media to take photos for non-suspected people (the real terrorists) in this way! Rarely, and mostly they don't let all photographers to do so =) Of course, it goes without saying ^^ No wasn't this, it was this èdear, regardless of the circumstances, is this acceptable? humiliation, and yeah, Most of them 99.99% are suspected no single evidence yet they treat them this way!!!!!! (You know PHOBIA) post#33 American Contractors With The Help Of U.S. Government Raped Iraq Maybe you don't have one like mine, I can resize it depends on your screen type, I have many buttons in my big screen, where I can resize as much as I love =) You're welcome, it is your right ^^ Peace, love, honesty and sincerity, Yours Sincerely, Cat Stevens My latest threads Note: Silly, Irrelevant, and the like, responses, posts, comments will be ignored (it depends on my mood and time if I won't ignore them), taking off the topic is losers' style, ask yourself: will you write such response if the writer wasn't a Muslim!
Spin is just how these broadcasters work.. if they spoke like me they would be condemmed as ''apologists' and if they went to far over the other way.. i suppose it would be ''saddam supporters''.. It deffinitly is how you percieve what is being said..and how it either rings true or you just donm't believe it. Of course you won't see any ''body shots'' either of soldiers or for the most part [i can only think of one e.g] of killing ...what would that serve ''this war is wrong'' pander to that mentality ?..why ?. is not my POV just as valid. Thanks for abuseing what i said [by the way ]... i'm talking about how we are only knowing what CS wishes..with not much context. Of course certain restrictions are on TV.. but if you wish to look http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Mar2004/n03252004_200403259.html information is their.. I can't fully comment on americas TV output..not living their.. The BBC are not flawless but we have quite a broad output from them i agree.. don't you have c-span [what am i saying i know you do].. wich is the same as http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/bbc_parliament/3005447.stm The BBC are a little more cautious and after their spat with the goverment..it has to be said.
matthew HEY you! did they make any investigations, they've just captured or catched them! they don't have the right to treat them this way!!!! US is barking about the human rights yet US is the one who is breaking the laws! Oh, Come on! it is really stupid to discuss such things over and over again. how rediculious are you going to get with your comments and off topic posts. when I will see you in the newspapers in the future in such a situation I will say how ridiculous are the newspapers going to get with this imsge! that causes pain! with no need to do so.Peace, love, honesty and sincerity, Yours Sincerely, Cat Stevens My latest threads Note: Silly, Irrelevant, and the like, responses, posts, comments will be ignored (it depends on my mood and time if I won't ignore them), taking off the topic is losers' style, ask yourself: will you write such response if the writer wasn't a Muslim!
It is harsh..it is not all being lost on me Mr stevens..it's not phobia Mr stevens...it's them doing a job..images that can be pulled from all types of scenarios.. it is emotionaly cold..nothing more. We are not on the same page till i know the source of those images.. i just have to believe your presumptions.. Erm well it took about 5 posts for us to agree.. Ok... for a start stop making figures up..thats unhelpful.. Some images ''prove your point'' others are just manipulative.. i'm not going to bang on about this now.. you get my point by now..i hope. Oh yeah i did see that.. Get you with your fancy computer... i probably can do the same..can i be bothered ?? nope. EVEN IF SOME OF WHAT I SAY IS IRRELEVANT ?..