Boycott Money

Discussion in 'Boycott' started by GaiaMayaGodUniverse, Feb 11, 2008.

  1. GaiaMayaGodUniverse

    GaiaMayaGodUniverse Member

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    money is evil.






    prove me wrong.
     
  2. RyJa

    RyJa Member

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    That's ok. I need money to pay taxes for my house, for food, for clothes and for anything else I may need.

    Without money, were left with a bartering system which will turn out to be worse off.
     
  3. GaiaMayaGodUniverse

    GaiaMayaGodUniverse Member

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    read my post in philosophy and religion. it's called the new gospel.
     
  4. SlydeHippie

    SlydeHippie Banned

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    Money is a necessary evil in today's society.

    Perhaps a day will arrive when Money and the Greed that accompanies it will not be needed.
     
  5. GaiaMayaGodUniverse

    GaiaMayaGodUniverse Member

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    touche.

    absolve money, absolve society.
     
  6. zenloki

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    it's not money that's evil. money is just a means to make financial transactions easier and right now i don't see a way to boycott it. what's evil is the love of money or in other words greed.
     
  7. GaiaMayaGodUniverse

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    the love of money is evil?
    love is evil?
    whoever told you that is your enemy...

    power makes the world go round
    money is power
    man desires power
    to have power, man believes he needs money
    man has money
    man has power
    desire is evil
    man desires
    man is evil
    man has money
    man has power
    power and money are evil.
     
  8. SlydeHippie

    SlydeHippie Banned

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    You're overlooking an important factor. In nowadays society, and even before this, that Desire has evolved into Love.

    Man Loves money. Love is not evil; but Love for the wrong things, or love wrong-intentioned, can be very "evil".
     
  9. GaiaMayaGodUniverse

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    and thus, give away all your possessions and all of your words and all of your ideas, and you will be free to roam the universe that is your mind.
     
  10. GaiaMayaGodUniverse

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    that's why the genie could only give THINGS, not love. for we have free will.
     
  11. earthmother

    earthmother senior weirdo

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    Federal Reserve Notes are merely trade items, slips of paper, which are easier to handle than larger objects. But they are being used for evil purposes. GREED and the hunger for power is the evil part. HUMANS make the evil, not the paper.
     
  12. zenloki

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    right on sister!
     
  13. GaiaMayaGodUniverse

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    touche earth mother, i came to that conclusion within the last two days. the power trinity is as follows: man, money, power. put them in anay order and it comes out perfect everytime.
     
  14. burnabowl

    burnabowl Dancing Tree

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    I could provide a simliar chain of absolutes to prove anything I wanted. Money is power, but that's not all it is.

    What is evil to me is that society sees the income as the ultimate mark of accomplishment, above all others. We cheat ourselves out of becoming better people by assuming there's nothing better than money.

    Nothing is absolutely evil, including money, even if it has a lot of so called evil surrounding it. The only thing that we can call evil is humans. Not all humans. What I mean is that we are capable of conscious and rational advancement of our thoughts and morals. We can become better, and since we have that capability, we can also become worse. We are only evil because we are capable of infinite acts of progression, but often we regress. Nothing else, including money, is capable of that; so nothing else, IMO, is evil
     
  15. underground04

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    if we didnt have money, we'd just go back to the outdated, cumbersome and inefficient barter system.
    also, sage
     
  16. burnabowl

    burnabowl Dancing Tree

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    a barter system that was inefficent from a current capitalistic vantage point. I think trading as an ultimate standard for commerce is a good thing. Instead of shiploads of something like oil coming into the US, and nothing going out in return except electric money, we could export other high tech (green) goods. The payment of artificial money causes imbalance in a free market system. I think we oughta get back to bartering, at least to an extent
     
  17. scratcho

    scratcho Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Now this is sort of the way I understand economics as it relates to bartering.If I have a peach orchard and you have a tomato patch-we can trade.But if you run out of tomatoes and still want peaches,some method of keeping track of the peaches I give you will have to be used.Now ,you will give me some metal or paper that IS SAID to be worth what government says it is worth that will balance the transaction.That metal or paper will trade for other things I may want or need--seeds,tools,transportation.You could work in my orchard and barter your labor for the peaches or you may want metal or paper to trade for something else you want or need.So basically it's all a trade for labor.It takes time and effort(labor) to grow your tomatoes and the same for my peaches and everyone else that has something to trade for wants and/or needs.So,if all is fairly equal,barter seems like a nice way to conduct the exchanges that are needed in life to have some sort of order.-----Now,would anyone care to take on and explain how the modern economic situation has become skewed enough to ,for example, pay some humans millions and more and consider this a fair trade for labor rendered?Why are some humans paid 5.00 an hour and other humans paid 5000 an hour?Is there that much differance in value from one human to the next?Just curious how this modern economic situation relates to the age-old bartering system. --------(Hope this makes some kind of sense)
     
  18. burnabowl

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    It has to do with the Social Darwinism we've ended up with as a result of raw capitalism. A megamillionare executive has no interest in equal bartering, because he doesn't have to do it. He's not comparable to an orchard worker, and has nothing to gain from a fair trade. Fairness, to him, is only a threat to his estate.

    The barter thing would work if we were all in similar classes, with all us of benefitting from a fair trade. Probably the only thing that will render us in such a state is an apocolypse, and we'd have to start from scratch, trading value for value, instead of value for x dollars, which is ever-changing and artificial
     
  19. scratcho

    scratcho Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    agreed.
     
  20. Finnaz

    Finnaz Champagne Socialist

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    Yeah, that pretty much sums it up, ironic that it takes a nuclear holocaust for hippie values to come in to practice eh?
     

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