I have to be the first I guess to say there are a lot of bs trip reports here from people who never took acid. I'm not naming names but seriously some of the stories I've read are so bogus. I call bs.
Yeah, at times I have wondered what book some reports were copied out of or at least inspired some reports. At times they can be so cliche as to raise my suspicion. What criteria do you look for to pick out a suspect report?
No mention of emotional turmoil, lack of appetite, way too much visuals for one or two hits.. that kinda stuff is a clue. And yeah, like somebody is describing someone elses trip report out of a book or something. When I trip I have an emotional release, can overly cry or laugh, I look in the mirror more... feel like I should be doing things like cleaning the dirt on the floor thats been there for weeks but suddenly it is so obviously screaming out at me like I am seeing it for the first time, I see people on the sidewalk or driving around and feel connected to them in some way like "we are one" kinda thing. I seldom hear reports with those things mentioned. But I could be wrong, acid trips are unique to each user, just seems like you said, too cliche some reports.
Its weird how lsd language is has the same thing happen to it as spiritual language. Someone actually knows, and they say they found god, they have a real experience. Then others blindly claim that they know the experience when all they know is knowledge about the experience. When people say they saw fractalized patterns and they had this out of body experience and it was like oh yea, it was cool, its like whoa. People on here used to actually were like what is this? This is not something to put off, this is a grand phenomon taking place. You say you immersed in the spiritual sight, you were literally saturated in esctacy! On the other hand lsd is really hard to explain and sometimes these cliche phrases start off earnest enough as stepping stones in conveying the unspeakable into words. Even the bottom of the mountain can seem grand enough to feel like you are at the top of mountain on an lsd trip. Those who haven't traveled the distance may mistake catching some vibes at a show the ultimate oneness you experience, when truly it is just the tip of the ice berg. It gets much more cosmic and integral then that where as the barrier between you and physical reality gets broken and both are interwoven into each other, and even further until there is no longer a this and that, but only this. Anyway of these cats are faking, hopefully they realize its not is no benefiting from saying you done lsd when you haven't. Real experience is the only way to know the truth.
Neither do I. Tripping is not a regular occurrence in my life. I've done shrooms and acid and DMT, talked about the experiences with friends, but the experiences are pretty hard to put into words. When I was tripping on mushrooms one of the guys who was with me said "some things that happen when you trip are not meant to be talked about", and I guess I took it to heart. I guess it's kind of personal, like after a trip like that I don't think about posting something on the internet right away, you know? And I've gotta be honest, I have done a lot of drugs, but have only tripped on psychedelics a handful of times, if not less than a handful.
Maybe I'm gullible, but usually when I read the cliche stuff, I think more that people are actually living the cliche. That they have heard what it is supposed to be like when they trip and so they feel that way, and then continue to embellish when they write it or even when they remember it. Kind of like becoming the stereotype of the person you picture yourself as, or want to be. (It kind of makes me sad.) I can say that I've never fully cried during a trip that I remember...although I could be lying. Also, I've thought that I might do something like clean or paint (art) while tripping, but when I'm actually tripping, I usually don't feel like doing anything physically productive. (I've tripped and painted, but never while seriously tripping.) And, I think pretty much the biggest trip cliche is the '"we are one" kinda thing.' It's often felt and described, but it could mean anything from empathy to camaraderie to interconnectedness to non-self. It would be interesting to know who is real and who isn't, or just what percentage is real, on a forum like this. My suspicion has always been more of embellishment that out right lying. I don't really know, but for some reason lately I get this impression that you are being more and more sarcastic lately. Then I think, no, maybe he means it. I wish I could see your face to see if you were hiding a smirk.
When my straight friends(old-old) find out I took plenty of it--they want to know what it was/is like. Maybe I'm not smart enough to describe "what it is like',because I figure each trip is a reflection of each individuals life and how much of the societal bullshit they've absorbed, which determines what may happen while tripping. Some results have been published over the past years,so I suppose it's easy to bullshit about it,if one feels the need to impress others. By the way Hawaiian dude-I used to dose with a couple of atomic submariners and sit in front of the marketplace and think I could read people's lives by watching them walk by. Much fun. Remember window pane?
honestly, reading through y'all's posts, it seems like very many of you are far-removed from your past psychedelic experiences. writing about psychedelics when you're once again so used to your normal consciousness that you'd benefit from an acid trip just as much as someone who'd never dosed before in their lives is kind of boring, and the body of information you're putting forth grows increasingly irrelevant and fantastic.
Not really sure what your getting at here, but maybe you just haven't looked deep enough to find the gold; http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/group.php?do=discuss&group=&discussionid=170
I am smirking at the silliness of my own comment but I mean it wholeheartedly From his comments I truly believe he has had the same molecule as me (which I assume is LSD) because he describes effects quite "intimate" to the experience. Of course this is not proof in any which way so it is funny that I am therefore convinced by THIS 'trip report', and not 'the cliche ones', that he has tripped so smirking and honest
if gold is a broken link, perhaps i'm in the right place. i thought i was pretty clear. could you specify what you're unsure about? are you really sure but you just don't want to engage me bluntly? either is ok with me, and i'd like to know.
My bad, I guess you have to join that social group. Not sure what the rules or requirements are for joining. Engage you directly? sure. You are coming across as an arrogant fuck who somehow thinks he has it all right and the rest of us a bunch of know-nothing losers. Good way to introduce yourself to a new group of people:2thumbsup: Welcome to Hip Forums, look forward to conversing with you some more.