Bush Administration Censoring American Scientists!

Discussion in 'Politics' started by skip, Apr 6, 2006.

  1. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    The Bush Administration has been actively monitoring every word published by government scientists, ensuring that their reports not mention Global Warming or Climate Change. Many publications were censored or repressed due to content that the Bush Administration doesn't want made public.

    They've also been blocking interviews between the scientists and the press.

    I thought America was a FREE country?

    Guess not...

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/05/AR2006040502150_pf.html
     
  2. AT98BooBoo

    AT98BooBoo Senior Member

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    Amerika a Free Country? Only in our memory.
     
  3. polymer

    polymer Senior Member

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    precisely why I hate this admin; any sensible scientist would.
    they are an enemy of progression, and adaptation.

    I'd venture it has something to do with all the loosening of corporate pollution restrictions Bushco has authorized during his two terms, with help from the oil barons.

    this is exactly why I hate neo-cons, and the mindless idiots who support them.
     
  4. Libertine

    Libertine Guru of Hedonopia

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    Thanks, Skip.

    Now my day is ruined.

    ...fuckin' Bush-ed, again...
     
  5. Inquiring-Mind

    Inquiring-Mind Senior Member

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    The tax which will be paid for [the] purpose [of education] is not more than the thousandth part of what will be paid to kings, priests and nobles who will rise up among us if we leave the people in ignorance.
    --Thomas Jefferson to George Wythe, 1786.

    This is not surprising because most of the right wing/religious right and the people that it manipulates and deceive believe science is evil.
     
  6. Pointbreak

    Pointbreak Banned

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    The correct title of this thread should be "Government censors government scientists".
     
  7. Inquiring-Mind

    Inquiring-Mind Senior Member

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    The government doesn't run itself. The government is only good as the people that operate it and support it.
     
  8. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    Oh, and is that the new euphemism for the Bush Administration - Government?

    Yeah, let's ignore the fact that this country is being run by OIL MEN, who don't want the truth about oil's impact upon the Environment to get out.

    Maybe I should've called it "Oil Men and Republicans censor government scientists?", would that be more accurate?

    And why do YOU care about how a thread is titled on this forum?

    And is that YOUR ONLY comment about this issue?

    If you don't quit acting like a troll, you will soon be treated like one.
     
  9. Pointbreak

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    Yes, actually, that would have been more accurate, and it would have been making exactly the same point I am making.

    Bush is not censoring all scientists, he is censoring government scientists. I'm anti big government. My point is that of course government will censor government scientists. Did you trust the government before Bush came along? Did you trust government scientists before? I didn't.
     
  10. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    Yes, you are correct (My apology for that.) I thought you meant to down play Bush & his cronies responsibilities, not which scientists were being censored. Of course only gov't (paid) scientists are being censored.

    So their work, that WE pay for, is being suppressed for political and profit motives on behalf of Bush & Cheney.

    Believe it or not I trust gov't scientists far more than those supported by special interests. They have less bias (usually).
     
  11. polymer

    polymer Senior Member

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    what's the lobbyist agenda that the admin would like to silence? Operation Tree Hug?

    give me a break..

    seriously, what does it matter , if they're contracted scientists, independent scientists, or EPA?

    Global warming is a very REAL issue, and it just seems this admin doesn't want to hear the verdict of the repercussions for their f'ed up policies. Bush made it a point to be more lenient on corporate pollution restrictions; yay, consumers are spending more, buying more gas-guzzling POS's, our economy is doing great! The environment? oh, we won't worry about that now, we'll let the next guy in office address it...

    very irresponsible policy-making, just to make extra bucks.

    the field of science is called green chemistry (nanochem is also involved), and if Bush had any fucking sense, he'd quit squandering our money and seriously support the research, the hell with Mars. we need to stop shitting where we eat.

    [sorry for my tone, skip; this issue particularly angers me, I've been monitoring Bush's environmental policies since 2001, and it's one of the main reasons I truly loathe him]
     
  12. matthew

    matthew Almost sexy

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    I think you just make stuff up Skip........:rolleyes:


    http://www.state.gov/g/oes/climate/
    http://www.gcrio.org/index.html
    http://www.usgcrp.gov/usgcrp/nacc/default.htm
    http://www.usgcrp.gov/


    http://yosemite.epa.gov/oar/globalwarming.nsf/content/
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/2023835.stm
    http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/02/climatechange.html
    and so on....
     
  13. shaggie

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    The Bush administration did a nice job of rewording the EPA report after 911 to make it look like the air was safe. The White House has no business tampering with reports of another agency.

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  14. HikerHauk

    HikerHauk Banned

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    we are free as long as we are not on the way of our government
    then what's the use of this "way"

    sadly, that's just where i wanna be
     
  15. shaggie

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    Moreover, Bush had the audacity to look America in the face right after 911 and tell people 'we don't need an investigation'. Every person in the country should have been outraged over that suppression of information. It shows what a sick bastard Bush really is.

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    Clearly some of the initial statements left unanswered questions, and this is potential danger in an emergency. Unknowns lead to rumors and can lead to hysteria. The White House CEQ took the "What does that mean?" out of the EPA's words and replaced them with definitive judgements based on all data.


    http://www.slantpoint.com/mt-arx/2003/08/bad_air_hillary.php

    is this true ?
     
  17. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    Matthew, time to quit being a part of Bush's Lie Machine.

    Take your next check, cash it in, and find another job.

    Those who lie for him end up in jail.
     
  18. skip

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    Lie ??

    This is what you said:

    ''The Bush Administration has been actively monitoring every word published by government scientists, ensuring that their reports not mention Global Warming or Climate Change.''

    Is that true ???

    NO.

    Thats as simple as my point gets..but i think it covers everything.

    Am i 'lieing' or are you ?..

    It is remarkable that you can even post such things and claim that I am lieing.. thinking about it lieing about what exactly ?.

    :p No.. i work with 'climate change global warming US EPA policy' and a little known search engine called 'Google'..

    You should attempt to use it now and again..you would be amazed at what you find out.

    http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=%27climate+change+global+warming+US+EPA+policy%27&ei=UTF-8&fr=FP-tab-web-t&x=wrt

    :rolleyes:
     
  20. shaggie

    shaggie Senior Member

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    Yes, the air was 'safe', alright. In light of 911, makes one ponder what exactly it would it take for the Bush administration to declare air to be unsafe. Let's all tamper with the EPA report and reassure the public when we don't have data telling us it's safe.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4904188.stm

    So now let's all apologize for Bush once again. He was wrong about this one too, but people make mistakes, right? Much the same with the Iraq 'intelligence'. And Katrina.

    Don't do anything that might make people concerned. Much like the case of tampering with the EPA report so as to not scare people, just sit there at a gradeschool while 3000 people died because you might scare the little kids if you left. It's all a testament to just how warped Bush logic really is.

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