Can I be vegetarian and still eat fish?

Discussion in 'Vegetarian' started by minkajane, Mar 9, 2006.

  1. minkajane

    minkajane Member

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    I recently decided to stop eating meat, for health reasons in addition to moral reasons (I don't think it's wrong to eat meat, but it's wrong to treat them the way they do). I still eat fish, though. Mainly tuna and salmon. Am I still considered a vegetarian? My guess is no, but I'd like to hear some other opinions on the subject. I've heard differing opinions.
     
  2. drumminmama

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  3. Danishbuddha

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    i do it, but its only then i cannot let it be, but i know some veggies that eat fish also, but no other meat
     
  4. foundme

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    I am the same way..fish..but no meat...anyways who made up the rules? I'm sure in a while you'll stop fish too.....tuna is extremely high in mercury...but salmon is great...gotmercury.com will help you out about fish precautions
     
  5. EarthyGirl1985

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    Hey sister,
    I feel like this...while you wouldn't fall under the category of vegetarian, it's ok. Don't feel guilty about eating salmon if you wouldn't normally. What I am saying is, there is no rules to what is "right". It's all personal. Do check up on the tuna thing though, as sister foundme above stated. Take care.
     
  6. drumminmama

    drumminmama Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    a vegetarian is an herbivore.
    fish is a living, spawned creature. eyeballs and such.
    While I respect and honor your decision to be aware of what you eat (you GO, girl) The definition is person who consumes NO flesh.
    from the International Vegetarian Union:
    Definitions of some other confusing terms

    Semi-Vegetarian: Eats less meat than average person. See also PSEUDO-VEGETARIAN.

    Pseudo-Vegetarian: Claims to be vegetarian, but isn't. Often used by VEGETARIANS to describe SEMI-VEGETARIANs, and PESCETARIANs.

    Pescetarian: Similar to VEGETARIAN, but also consumes fish. (often is a person avoiding factory-farming techniques...) See also PSEUDO-VEGETARIAN.

    Fruitarian: Same as VEGAN, but only eats foods that don't kill the plant (apples can be picked without killing plant, carrots cannot).

    Vegetable Consumer: Means anyone who consumes vegetables. Not necessarily a VEGETARIAN.

    Herbivore: Mainly eats grass or plants. Not necessarily a VEGETARIAN.

    Plant-Eater: Mainly eats plants. Not necessarily a VEGETARIAN.

    Nonmeat-Eater: Does not eat meat. Most definitions do not consider fish, fowl or seafood to be meat. Animal fats and oils, bonemeal and skin are not considered meat.

    Kosher: Made according to a complex set of Jewish dietary laws. Does not imply VEGAN in any case. Does not imply OVO-LACTO VEGETARIAN in any case. Even KOSHER products containing milk products may contain some types of animals which are not considered 'meat'.

    Pareve/Parve: One category in KOSHER dietary laws. Made without meat or milk products or their derivatives. Eggs and true fish are pareve, shellfish are not.

    Nondairy: Does not have enough percentage of milkfat to be called dairy. May actually contain milk or milk derivatives.

    Nonmeat: Made without meat. May include eggs, milk, cheese. Sometimes even included animal fats, seafood, fish, fowl.
    http://www.ivu.org/faq/definitions.html
     
  7. Hikaru Zero

    Hikaru Zero Sylvan Paladin

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    As drumminmama conveniently pointed this out, I want to reiterate.

    Vegetarins absolutely do not eat fish!

    Fish-eaters are not vegetarians!

    People who eat only fish meat are known as pescatarians.

    If you eat fish, please do not call yourself a vegetarian!
     
  8. Kiz

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    Good for you for cutting out most meat! But no, you are not vegetarian.
     
  9. homeschoolmama

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    Yeah, I asked about this a couple months ago too... you'd be a pescetarian.

    Personally, I think it's better than full omnivore though, so go for it!!! I had a tough time deciding whether or not to drop fish too... there's so much "good stuff" you can get from eating it! It came down to allergies for me. There were only a few I could eat anyway & I wasn't so crazy about any of them ;)
    love,
    mom
     
  10. mrsmorrison27

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    well... i am a vegetarian for moral reasons. and fish are animals too. so i just dont think its fair to all like "save the animals dot eat them!!" and then go eat a fish sandwich, BUT if ur doing it to be more healthy, than yes, if your not doing it for moral reasons. i just cant bring myself to eat anything that is living, with flesh and bones and feelings and such
     
  11. inbloom

    inbloom as the crow flies...

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    Even though it's already been said, I just want to add to the consensus,
    because this issue has pissed me off in the past.

    Like drumminmama said, it's great, if you want to cut down or stop eating
    red meat and/or chicken, and all that. Awesome. But pleeeease don't go
    around, calling yourselves vegetarian. I swear, some people do it to sound
    cool. (And no, I'm not accusing you of that, at all).
     
  12. inbloom

    inbloom as the crow flies...

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    I also feel it interesting to mention, that vegans used to be called vegetarians.
    Later on, when people started making "exceptions" and still passing themselves
    off as veggies, a new term had to be thought up.

    From Wikipedia.org

    "Origin of the name

    The word vegan [pronounced 'vee-gun'], was originally derived from
    vegetarian in 1944 when Elsie Shrigley and Donald Watson, frustrated that the
    term "vegetarianism" had come to include the eating of dairy products, founded
    the UK Vegan Society. "Vegan", which they saw as "the beginning and end of
    vegetarian", started and ended with the first three and last two letters of
    vegetarian."
     
  13. mrsmorrison27

    mrsmorrison27 yoda piss

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    right on
     
  14. TheRealPamela

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    I would like to mention that fish can not NOT be considered meat, as it is flesh. Also, fish consumption *does* conribute to factory farming, such as salmon farms, etc. Shrimp is among the worst, for each pound of shrimp killed, there is about 10 pounds of other marine life killed. Please be aware that animals are sentient.
    There is good news though. There is a bunch of fake meat, including fish out there. Try some! vegieworld.com even fake lobster!
     
  15. MoonMaiden

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    Thats interesting... I didn't know that. :)
     
  16. liguana

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    No you cannot eat fish and still be vegetarian. It needs to be mentioned that seafood is way over-harvested, and abusive to populations of non-targeted marine species :confused:

    I have the highest respects for those who cut meat from thier diet. But IMHO, this coming from an omni, meat includes FISH, shellfish, chicken and anything of flesh. If you eat any of those plz don't call yourself a vegetarian cuz a fish is NOT exactly a vegetable, is it.

    There was this guy who claimed he was vegetarian, then 2 weeks ago I found him eating chicken stew:
    Me: but I thought you were vegetarian?
    Him: ahhh but to a point
    I had to restrain myself from wringing this guys neck cuz I need him for a business contact :mad:

    WTF does 'to a point mean'? If you don't eat red meat it's just that, you don't eat red meat but don't call yourself a vegetarian.
     
  17. Rigamarole

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    Vegetarian is just a label. You can be whoever you want, eat whatever you want, and call it whatever you want.
     
  18. Hikaru Zero

    Hikaru Zero Sylvan Paladin

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    Yes. However ... vegetarian is just a label, for those who do not eat meat or otherwise animal flesh.

    Sure, you COULD eat red meat, or chicken, or fish, and call yourself a vegetarian, but that'd be like walking around telling people that you have cancer when you don't. It's incorrect, and more than that, it's just plain wrong.
     
  19. drumminmama

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    or like saying you gave a college degree when you don't.
    Vegetarian MEANS something and to misuse the term is to cheapen it.
     
  20. liguana

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    It's not just a label to all of us, Rigamarole. I thought I made my sentiments clear.

    I have the deepest respect for vegetarians and when some1 tells me they're veggie and they're not, I feel a HUGE letdown. I would have slapped that guy eating chicken stew with a t-bone steak if i had one :mad:.
     

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