Can i own a fire-arm and still Be a hippie

My "spam" is there cause people wanted facts rather than my opinion.If you have read the thread you should they're a cut and paste direct from yahoo representing the days news about reported shootings.

 

The system fail long ago and it got nothing to do with firearms .

 

When I was younger, (around 1972) I was in the San Marcos Pass above Santa Barbara, one day when I come around this curve and see two cars ahead of me that had been involved in an accident. As I got closer I see there is only one person standing there. And he is reloading a hand gun. I'll never forget that look in his eyes. It was as if his humanity had been replaced by some animalistic thought process. I've since seen that look several times. As I live in an area beset with gang violence, I see the after effects all the time. Young men in wheel chairs or maimed and walking with canes etc. I'm not an apologist for the gun industry, and I support handgun and assault weapon control. My point is, when the rage to kill has taken hold of someone, for whatever reason, they are going to try to kill. If there isn't a gun handy, they will find other means. I can take the sport section of todays newspaper and create a weapon capable of breaking a skull with one blow.

What is it that creates that urge to kill other than self defense or in defense of another? Is there something in their thought process that is damaged? When a dog goes mad, do we try to rehabilitate it? Once that line is crossed the human has become like the large cat (not african lions ot tigers that see everything as prey, but like a cougar/mountain lion) that suddenly sees humans as a menu item and should be put to sleep. Plea bargain bullshit and life sentences for killers that cost us tax payers hundreds of thousands of dollars per year don't get it for me. I have no sympathy for them whatever the reason. I don't see capital punishment as a deterrent, but more like a necessity to remove defective humans out of the gene pool. Sorry for the rant. I just find going through all those links everyday is kind of overkill. Everybody knows those things go on on a daily basis. Society is looking to me to becoming more and more depraved, and ugly. Just read the lyrics to the song " Dead Body Disposal" by Necro some day. Those are the new heros for the kids to emulate. Something has gone terribly wrong with our world.

 

Assault weapons were never sold . only the few lucky ones with class 3 weapons do.

 

come on DIRK you can do better than that . but even i make mistakes.

 

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In order to understand the complexities and fine lines drawn by the government regarding assault weapons, we have to understand some basic terms such as Rifleand Machinegun.​

Specific Details of an​

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Rifles- If it can accept detachable magazines and possesses 2 or more of the following:




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• Folding / Telescoping Stock
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• Pistol Grip protruding beneath the action
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• Flash suppressor or Threaded Barrel
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• Grenade Launcher
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Pistols- If it can accept detachable magazines and possesses 2 or more of the following: ​

• Magazines that attaches outside the pistol grip
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• Threaded barrel of accepting flash suppressor, silencer, barrel extender, forward hand grip
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• Shroud that attaches to pistol to allow shooter to hold firearm with non-trigger hand without being burned
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• Manufactured weight of 50oz or more when pistol is empty
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Rifle-The term "rifle" means a weapon designed or made and intended to be fired from the shoulder using the explosive energy to fire a projectile.

Machinegun-The term "machinegun" means any weapon which is designed to shoot or can be readily restored to shoot more than one shot automatically, without the manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger. Machineguns have been heavily regulated since the National Firearms Act of 1934.​

Assault Weapon- A semi automatic firearm that has a military appearance. A look alike in layman terms. Semi auto means that the trigger has to be pulled for the weapon to discharge a single projectile (round).

Even though "assault weapons" may look like their military counterpart, they only fire one round at a time, with each pull of the trigger. Semi automatic weapons have been around for years, even though the term "assault weapon" has not!​

A semi automatic weapon will be considered an "assault weapon " if it meets certain cosmetic criteria.

Now bare in mind the criteria a weapon to be considered an "assault weapon" is purely based on cosmetics and ergonomic design and not lethality.




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Military-style semi-automatic firearms (so-called assault weapons) do not differ materially from non-military style semi-automatic firearms (one bullet is fired for each pull of the trigger) and are no more powerful than other semi-automatic weapons. Further, a bullet fired from a semi-automatic weapon is no more powerful than one of the same caliber fired from a corresponding non-semi-automatic handgun, rifle, or shotgun. In fact most assault weapons are less powerful than hunting rifles. For example, the AR-15 which is a semi-automatic version of the military's rifle (M-16), is a .223 caliber rifle. Rifles of this caliber are often forbidden from being used to hunt deer because this small caliber bullet is more likely to wound the animal (and allow it to escape and suffer a slow death) than the more powerful .24 to .30 caliber bullets normally used in deer hunting rifles. (An example of rifle caliber restrictions are Tennessee deer hunting regulations. Click on "regulations" in the frame area.)

Assault weapons are not the weapons of choice among drug dealers, gang members or criminals in general. Assault weapons are used in about one-fifth of one percent (.20%) of all violent crimes and about one percent in gun crimes. It is estimated that from one to seven percent of all homicides are committed with assault weapons (rifles of any type are involved in three to four percent of all homicides). However a higher percentage are used in police homicides, roughly ten percent. (There has been no consistent trend in this rate from 1978 through 1996.) Between 1992 and 1996 less than 4% of mass murders, committed with guns, involved assault weapons. (Our deadliest mass murders have either involved arson or bombs.)

There are close to 4 million assault weapons in the U.S., which amounts to roughly 1.7% of the total gun stock.

If assault weapons are so rarely used in crime, why all the hoopla when certain military-style-semi-automatic weapons were banned by the Crime Control Act of 1994? A Washington Post editorial (September 15, 1994) summed it up best:

No one should have any illusions about what was accomplished (by the ban). Assault weapons play a part in only a small percentage of crime. The provision is mainly symbolic; its virtue will be if it turns out to be, as hoped, a stepping stone to broader gun control. ​

 

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There are close to 4 million assault weapons in the U.S., which amounts to roughly 1.7% of the total gun stock. 

While this is quite good the idiot mention assault rifles wish they are not! . but i agree with the rest.

 

People clamour for restricting or banning "assault weapons" and say that such weapons have "awesome power" or "awesome firepower," "spew" bullets, are "high power, military-style, rapid-fire, high-capacity," etc.

Every one of these claims is false, and those who make them either don't know any better and simply repeat what others say, or they are purposely trying to mislead the public in the belief that lying is justified since they know best what is best for the rest of us.

There really is no such thing as an "assault weapon" unless one choses to call any weapon used to assault someone an "assault weapon," or unless one uses the term to refer to an assault rifle, which is defined by a federal agency with the background to know something about firearms. "Assault weapon" is a term that was originally applied by gun makers and sellers to semiautomatic firearms that looked like assault rifles. The gun control advocates picked it up and started using it to refer to anything ugly or strange looking. But many people now use the term without even realizing that they don't know what it means.

In some states and even lower level jurisdictions, there are now definitions of the term "assault weapon" as a result of the fact that these jurisdictions have made laws that define the term. They had to define somehow what it was they were intending to restrict since they were not adhering to an established definition. These definitions are anything but uniform. One might say, for example, that the California law defines the "California assault weapon" (like a "California stop") rather than "assault weapon." So, legally (illogically), we have a "California assault weapon" and a "Denver assault weapon," etc.

The federal government law about the things gun control advocates call "assault weapons" is not actually about "assault weapons." In the 1994 federal law people refer to when talking about "assault weapons," "semiautomatic assault weapons" are defined, not "assault weapons," and there is never any reference just to "assault weapon." This is because, in drafting the federal law, it came to some legislator's (or staffer's) attention that the guns they were talking about were not true assault weapons since they were semiautomatic firearms and true assault weapons were already restricted under the law regarding machineguns. So, they defined a new thing that applied only in the specific federal law.

Because the gun control advocates aren't hampered by a precise definition of "assault weapon," they are free to call any semiautomatic firearm they like an "assault weapon," something they and the media take full advantage of.

What does the public think "assault weapons" are? First, they generally think they are high-power military weapons that spray a stream of bullets as the weapon is swept in an arc like one might do with a garden hose sprayer. They think this because the media constantly says so. The media refers to the weapons "spewing a deadly rain of bullets," and TV has often shown a fully automatic firearm being used while a commentator is referring to "assault weapons." And, of course, the guns typically used in movies and TV intertainment are fully automatic and the public assumes that they are the same "assault weapons" that gun control advocates in and out of the media are talking about.

And the public thinks that "assault weapons" look certain ways. They think they know what an "assault weapon" is when they see it. To them the automatic guns they see in the movies and the guns they are shown when someone says "assault weapons" look the same. They don't realize that no expert can recognize a true assault weapon just from appearances at a distance, that any external feature that implies that a gun is an assault weapon is only about the size of the trigger of the gun, and that the basic thing that makes a gun an assault weapon is its operation (and the internal features that result in that unique operation).

People tend to think that a firearm is an assault weapon if it does not have the traditional appearance of a rifle, shotgun or revolver. If it has no wood on it or is predominantly black. If it looks ugly (or "evil"). If it has a carrying handle on the top of it. If the front sight is a couple of inches above the end of the barrel. If the barrel is not right at the top of the gun. If it has a banana shaped clip sticking out of it. If it has a pistol grip. If it has a second handgrip out in front. If it looks like a black box with a pistol grip.

None of these has anything to do with deadliness of a firearm, or is a necessary characteristic of a true assault weapon.

Some of the laws about so-called "assault weapons" define the subjects of the laws in terms of certain characteristics. For example, the federal law includes "any semiautomatic rifle that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least 2 of..." and then lists five features or sets of features:

• a folding or telescoping stock;
• a pistol grip that protrudes "conspicuously" beneath the action of the weapon (whatever that means);
• a bayonet mount;
• a flash suppressor or a threaded barrel "designed to accommodate a flash suppressor";
• a grenade launcher (which any rifle or shotgun can be)

Except for the pistol grip, these requirements are mostly a laughable, annoying nuisance to gun owners although the collapsible stock and the flash suppressor are of some legitimate value for some gun users. By this definition a lowly .22LR rimfire rifle could be an evil "semiautomatic assault weapon" if it had a pistol grip and a collapsable stock (good for backpacking into wilderness and hunting small game for food there) even though it is suitable only for target shooting and hunting of game the size of squirrels and cottontail rabbits (not even powerful enough for jackrabbits).

A flash suppressor is useful to prevent a person using a the gun for defense at night from having "night vision" impaired as a result of taking a shot. This is useful for the safety of both the shooter and for innocent bystanders.

The requirements did force gun makers to change their manufacturing to eliminate some features, resulting in the makers having to do some things differently for their commercial sales than for the military sales. This increases the costs of both versions a little, which is likely what the gun control advocates were actually trying to do.

For example, the manufacturer now has to make one part with a bayonet mounting lug and another almost identical part without it. Gun owners typically didn't want the mounting lug. It just came on the gun they wanted. But, then, why restrict it? When in the U.S. has anyone ever been attacked with a bayonet on a gun? Government officials, politicians and gun control advocates have been asked this question and have never been able to cite a single incident.

The features are considered "cosmetic" (irrelevant). When gun manufacturers changed their designs for commercial firearms to eliminate these features so their new guns would comply with the law, the gun banning advocates in and out of the government cried "foul" and criticized the manufacturers for making "cosmetic" changes and "using loopholes" to get around the law.

Of course, they never mention that the cosmetic features are the very same ones they had used to needlessly make some firearms illegal to start with. The features were "so dangerous" when the gun banners wanted to use them to restrict guns, but they became "cosmetic" when the banners wanted to vilify the firearms industry (part, along with the NRA, of what they call "the gun lobby" so they can accuse legislators who know something about firearms of being "owned" by the "gun lobby").

And, the gun banners never mention that some of the manufacturers at the same time voluntarily made some design changes to make it even harder for a person to convert the gun to fully automatic.

Clinton objected that the manufacturers had not changed the basic internal mechanism, even though some of them had, not mentioning that there are only a handful of basic mechanisms used in all semiautomatic firearms and that they are the same ones that are used in all those semiautomatic firearms the ban advocates had not banned when they banned a few selected ones. MILITARY?



What about the characterization of the so-called (semiautomatic) "assault weapons" as being "military"? Mistake or lie. Not a one of them is used by any military. Military forces use real assault weapons--fully automatic firearms or firearms with such capability being a selectable option. Military forces need the capability of being able to shoot into large numbers of enemy forces rather than trying to shoot this one and that one. "MILITARY STYLE"



Gun control advocates and the unwitting (or advocating) media typically refer to "military-style" assault rifles or weapons. They do this because none of the weapons they are referring to is used by any military and therefore is not a "military" weapon. The weapons are really "military style" only in that they look something like true military weapons or have some features that look like features of true military weapons. Other misleading references the media uses are like "AK-47 style" when the gun in question just looks similar to an AK-47. CAPACITY



A firearm has a "capacity" only if it is of a type that has an internal magazine (the place where the cartridges--what the public calls "bullets" are kept in the gun until they are fired or removed). Firearms with detachable magazines (incorrectly sometimes called "clips") do not have "capacity."

The magazine has a capacity, but it is irrelevant in the case of bolt action or semiautomatic firearms. This is because emptying a magazine does not mean the person with the gun must stop shooting. It only means the person extracts the empty magazine and inserts a loaded one. For pistols this takes about two seconds since the empty is ejected automatically just by pressing a button. For some rifles it may take about five seconds because the removal and insertion of the clip are both usually two-hand operations.

Although magazine capacity is irrelevant in the case of semiautomatic firearms like the ones the laws and gun control advocates call "assault weapons," it is relevant in the case of true assault weapons. For a true assault weapon in full-auto firing mode, a 30-round magazine will be emptied in two to three seconds (depending upon the rate at which the gun fires). So a person using a fully automatic firearm would have to be changing magazines almost constantly if the magazines held only 30 rounds. For true assault weapons, then, magazines typically hold 90-100 rounds or more. FIREPOWER



"Firepower" is a term that refers to the combination or product of two (or maybe three) other characteristics: individual shot lethality and capacity or firing rate (or both). Hence, a high rate or capacity coupled with a low lethality would not result in high firepower, and neither would a high lethality coupled with a low firing rate or capacity. Hence a semiautomatic .22 rimfire caliber rifle with a large magazine does not have "high firepower." Select the preceding links to find out why the guns called "assault weapons" generally have less firepower than many guns, including true assault weapons.

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When referring to a firearm as a "high-power" firearm, one is referring to the caliber of the cartridge--which translates to the energy carried by the bullet (projectile) to the target. The term doesn't actually relate to the projectile diameter that is part of every caliber designation, or to any other projectile size characteristic.

Instead, it relates essentially to the amount and effectiveness of the gun powder in the cartridge. Hence, it is possible to have a short, small-diameter projectile in a caliber that is considered "high power." To have this, the case of the cartridge will be relatively long and of greater diameter than the projectile--and the case will have a lot of gun powder in it.

The "power" is actually measured in units of energy: foot-pounds in the U.S. A high energy means that the projectile will carry a lot of energy to the target. The amount of energy a projectile has drops the further the projectile gets from the muzzle (barrel opening) of the gun because the energy is used in moving the air the projectile passes through (and making noise and heat as a result).

Also, a cartridge will impart less energy to the projectile if fired from an automatic or semiautomatic firearm than it will if fired from another type of gun. The reason for this is that some of the energy produced by a cartridge in an automatic or semiautomatic firearm is used up in the operation that ejects an empty case and pushes the next cartridge into the firing chamber. If the target is a moderately dense material such as the flesh of a human or animal, a large part of the energy of the projectile will be transferred to the target material and cause damage to it. This contributes heavily to the lethal character of the cartridge.

 

Well Gate 68 you got a shit load of home work to do now.

 

personally, it scares the hell out of me to think that some people want only the police and military to legally own guns. The people living outside the law don't care whether their guns are illegal or not. So that means the only unarmed people would be those of us who are law-abiding honest citizens? I really can't comprehend the logic behind gun control or how anyone can think it's a good idea. *shrug*

 

i agree mamaboogie!

 

actually they do = Nazi Germany, the ex USSR, Cuba just to mention a few. and by the way Germans can own firearms this days . But the British lost theyrs how ironic !.

 

Yet i can go anywhere in the surrounding area and buy one.

 

stolen handguns, knives ,blunt weapons. rifle wise only that idiot that was sniping with a AR-15 . at less than 60 yards i could do that with a Ruger 10/22 . or even a plain single or bolt action 22 long rifle found any where for less than $100.00 new or used.

 

What?A bunch of pro gun biased material about assault rifles.i could really give a shit.i might as well be reading about anti-aircraft weapons.The ideas are the same.Isn't it scary that only the police and military are allowed these other advanced weapons and we're not?i want my gernades.What am i gonna do when the shit comes down?i need my land mines.

 

DC Police are looking for a suspect in the stabbing death of one man and the wounding of two others following a charity dance run by George Washington University students.

The Easter morning stabbings occurred outside the Old Post Office Pavilion on Pennsylvania Avenue.

Dave Statter’s Report

The stately Old Post Office Pavilion is a tourist attraction with souvenir shops and a food court. Normally the connection inside to India is this food stand. But Saturday at 6:00pm the whole pavilion was shut down to cap off a weekend celebration of Indian and Pakistani dance known as Bhangra Blowout.

It is sponsored by George Washington University’s South Asian Society.

Despite the private security and officers from the Federal Protective Service, the event called the “Official Blowout” turned deadly. Twenty-year-old Ranjit Singh of Phillipsburg New Jersey was stabbed to death during a fight after the party ended. Two others who pursued the attacker were also stabbed.

Earlier in the evening there was much joy as teams from Nine eastern schools took to the stage at DAR Constitution hall. The proceeds got to scholarships and this year to tsunami relief.

The event at the Old Post Office allowed anyone over 18 to purchase a ticket. But had a separate VIP area where those over 21 were allowed to consume alcohol. And police believe the stabbing was alcohol related.

At this time there is no word on a suspect. But what is known, is that an event meant for charity turned into a tragedy.

 

yes, it is. very very scary indeed. that's why we (used to) have the Second Ammendment to the Constitution. Used to be, the government worked for the people, and the people kept the government's power in check. Or at least that was the general idea when the US Constitution was written.

 

see Gate68 we can play under the same rules.

 

DC Police are looking for a suspect in the stabbing death of one man and the wounding of two others following a charity dance run by George Washington University students.

The Easter morning stabbings occurred outside the Old Post Office Pavilion on Pennsylvania Avenue.

Dave Statter’s Report

The stately Old Post Office Pavilion is a tourist attraction with souvenir shops and a food court. Normally the connection inside to India is this food stand. But Saturday at 6:00pm the whole pavilion was shut down to cap off a weekend celebration of Indian and Pakistani dance known as Bhangra Blowout.

It is sponsored by George Washington University’s South Asian Society.

Despite the private security and officers from the Federal Protective Service, the event called the “Official Blowout” turned deadly. Twenty-year-old Ranjit Singh of Phillipsburg New Jersey was stabbed to death during a fight after the party ended. Two others who pursued the attacker were also stabbed.

Earlier in the evening there was much joy as teams from Nine eastern schools took to the stage at DAR Constitution hall. The proceeds got to scholarships and this year to tsunami relief.

The event at the Old Post Office allowed anyone over 18 to purchase a ticket. But had a separate VIP area where those over 21 were allowed to consume alcohol. And police believe the stabbing was alcohol related.

At this time there is no word on a suspect. But what is known, is that an event meant for charity turned into a tragedy.