Can i own a fire-arm and still Be a hippie

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    let's rethink #2,there is no good "hiding"place.#4.A gunsmith would be out cause i think it would be a personal responsibility as to the care.#5,That would be a responsible move for probably a few million people,perhaps if it boiled down to the few that were more careful and responsible there would be no need for any control,but...
    i guess i'm in the boondocks out here in my part of southern cal.Nashville,always wanted to make it in Nashville...nashville cats...
     
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    Personally i would like to put a sign in Gate 68 house fence " this house is gun free". or "we dont own any guns" .
     
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    not a bad idea.Consider it done.You ex-pro-gun converts are worth your weight in gold.You should post a list of weapons on your fence so they know what to steal while you're asleep.
     
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    kid found that too.You yourself say you use lock and key.

    .[/QUOTE]no no typical maintenance should be dont by the owner. Major defects or severe dammage should always be done by a professional gunsmith..[/QUOTE]
    ,,,and i should have a gun.



    .[/QUOTE]Walk through the Ozarks a little drive from here and you had better be careful and possible armed. between the methlabs and "crop" growers you could get yourself in a heap o trouble

    I'd stay away from the labs,armed or not.
     
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    I want pictures to confirm it.
     
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    might get in the way of your porn,besides you said you were done,go kill something and borrow it's balls,
     
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    You are defeated .
     
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    i wish i was,i wish you were right,please bring me to my knees,i want to lose, it's just too easy to get stories like this one as compared to stories with civilians using guns for defense.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/wjxt/20060418/lo_wjxt/3406778

    Police announced this morning the arrest of one man and pending charges against a second person in connection with recent shootings, and called the two "persons of interest" in the investigation into the fatal shooting of a 13-year-old boy early Sunday morning.

    Radarius Jackson was shot around 2 a.m. Sunday in 9300 block of Dovenshire Boulevard while walking home from a teen club with his 16-year-old brother and two older friends.

    At a news conference Tuesday morning, Jacksonville Sheriff's Office Assistant Chief Rick Graham said police are seeking Josef Williams on four attempted murder charges in a April 3 shooting that also targeted Jackson and others. Investigators said Williams may have been involved in Sunday morning's fatal shooting.

    Graham said a SWAT callout Monday night in the 7800 block of New Kings Road was an effort to arrest Williams.

    Greg Almon, 22, who police call an associate of Williams, was arrested on a charge of possession of a firearm by a convicted felon in yet a third shooting incident.

    "Both of the subjects -- Almon and Williams -- are subjects of interest in the murder of Radarius Jackson," Graham said. "I will assure the citizens of this county and the family of Radarius Jackson that we are making progress in this case, and we continue to work very feverously in solving this tragic event."

    Witnesses told police the shots that killed Jackson were fired from a brown car that had driven by the boys several times.

    "(The car) turned back around, turned off their headlights, and was saying 'Yeah ... I got ya," and just started shooting," Jackson's aunt, Nicole McBride, said.

    Jackson's mother said the people in the car had been harassing his older brother because he wouldn't hang out with their group.

    "Words can't explain," Jackson's mother said of her grief. "I want them caught, and they're gonnna get caught -- as long as I have breath in my body, because this was an innocent kid that got killed."

    Radarius, an eighth-grader at Ribault Middle School, was described as a good student and an athlete who played both football and basketball.

    Anyone with information that could help locate Williams or assist with this or other violent crimes is asked to call Crimestoppers (866) 845-TIPS.
     
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    When hiking or hunting in the Ozarks, one can stumble up on a lab or crop before you know it. Definately plan to stay awau but meh you never know. I once stumbles on a small crop once on a hunting trip on a game reserve no less.[/QUOTE]
    The potheads and the meth freaks shoulder the blame as well.i'm a "legal"pothead now and no longer support that system.I guess by supporting the system i do i am responsible for underage smoking in the same way i feel gun owners are responsible for illegal guns,in turn these young potheads will support the illegal growers a few of who are dangerous.It's a slippery slope anything you do,but as with any and everything we need to keep looking for the best solution.
    By the way i've hiked the local hills for years and can tell you where all the old camps are.Never had a problem with any of these growers.It's one thing to go to jail for growing,they weren't stupid.
     
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    Weightlifting accident kills boy

    The Huntington 12-year-old, working out alone, couldn't lift 180 pounds left on Dad's home gym off his own neck.



    By KIMBERLY EDDS and JOHN MCDONALD
    The Orange County Register



    [​IMG]WEIGHTS: Boy's goal was NFL
    Weightlifting precautions
    Here are some tips that one expert says can help weightlifters protect themselves from injury during workouts:

    Be educated about how to use the machine properly.

    Work out with a training partner who can provide help if you get into trouble.

    Make sure equipment safety latches are engaged before beginning your workout. Set the latches where you want the weight to catch to prevent the bar from falling to the ground.

    Ensure the weight you are attempting to lift is appropriate for your individual ability and body weight. Do not attempt heavier weights.

    Parents should educate their children about weight machines.

    Weights should taken off the barbell after use and not left on the machine unattended.

    Source: Kyle Knapp, head personal trainer, Bally's, Fullerton



    HUNTINGTON BEACH – Twelve-year-old Elijah Brown jogged because his father, Thomas, jogged.

    He skied, fished and surfed because that's what his father did.

    When Elijah sat down on his father's incline bench Thursday night and began lifting weights alone in the family garage, he did it because that's what he saw his father do, for hours on end. But the 180 pounds of weights and barbell left by Thomas Brown, a construction worker, were too much for the 133-pound boy. The weights fell. On his neck. He couldn't lift them off.

    Brown's grandfather found Elijah lying motionless on the bench - trapped beneath the barbell.

    Fred Escondon struggled to get the weights off his grandson. He dialed 911. He tried CPR.

    Paramedics rushed Elijah to Huntington Beach Hospital, where he died within minutes of his arrival, before his parents could get there.

    Thomas and Lisanne Brown said Elijah had started lifting weights last year. First 5 pounds. Then 10 pounds. Nothing too overwhelming for the stocky, 5-foot-3-inch boy. Enough to start training for football.

    Thomas Brown never thought twice about leaving the weights racked on the Club/Weider 550 Smith Machine he kept in his garage. A fitness buff, he spent hours working out. Elijah looked on. He asked questions. He wanted to learn.

    It was all part of the plan. Elijah's grand plan. He wanted to attend football powerhouse Mater Dei High School in Santa Ana. Next would come a scholarship to USC. Then a starting spot on the Denver Broncos. That was where Elijah was headed. And he had to get stronger to get there.

    The Smith Machine was equipped with racks that catch the barbell at certain points on side rails. The stops can be adjusted at varying heights or left idle, which allows the weight to fall all the way to the ground. The locks were not engaged, and the weight was too heavy for Elijah to lift the bar off his neck.

    An autopsy performed Thursday concluded Elijah died of neck/airway compression, Orange County Deputy Coroner Kelly Crawford said.

    Thomas Brown said his son knew better than to attempt to hoist so much weight, but the grieving father said he should have taken the weights off the machine.

    "It was my mistake," Thomas Brown said. "He knew there were rules. I don't know why he tried to lift so much weight."

    Hospital emergency rooms across the country reported 70,381 injuries involved the use of weightlifting and weightlifting equipment accidents last year, said spokeswoman Patty Davis of the Consumer Product Safety Council. Of those, 2,800 involved barbells or free-standing weights. There were six deaths.

    In seven years of Junior All-American football, Elijah missed one practice. He was first on the field and the last off. It was the same with karate and baseball. His dedication never wavered.

    He played his last game Saturday night. It hadn't gone well. The Huntington Beach Dolphins lost 38-0. But Elijah left smiling. They would do better next year, Brown told his teammates.

    For two weeks straight, Elijah pedaled the 2 miles from his house to the karate studio where he studied, bursting through the door drenching with sweat but ready to work. For hours, he performed move after move. Each one had to be perfect. Two weeks ago, he received his brown belt.

    "He knew what was expected and he went above and beyond that," said Todd Aimer, who taught Elijah karate for nine years. "We never had to ask Elijah to do more. He just did."

    Orderly, he would clean his friends' rooms - for a price. Five dollars later, their rooms were spic-and-span.

    On Thursday afternoon, Elijah cleaned the bedroom he shared with his 6-year-old sister Mylah. It was still spotless when his family returned home from the hospital.

    "Elijah is everywhere. His eyes are stars. The grass is his hair," Mylah said Friday, running her toes through the green grass. "He's watching me right now."

    Donations can be sent to The Elijah Brown Fund, P.O. Box 3736, Costa Mesa, CA 92628.

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    Weekend crashes kill five, injure 10

    Death toll among highest for holiday

    By Beth Daley, Globe Staff | May 30, 2005

    The Memorial Day weekend turned tragic as five people were killed in four car accidents. Ten were injured.

    In Brighton, a 14-year-old Milford boy died early yesterday morning when the car he was riding in hit a signpost on the onramp to the Massachusetts Turnpike, according to State Police. The 20-year-old driver, Marcel DaSilva, was taken to Brigham and Women's Hospital, where he was being treated for serious injuries. He was served with a summons to Brighton District Court for vehicular homicide and driving to endanger, State Police said. Police declined to identify the 14-year-old.

    With the three-day holiday weekend still not over, the death toll was already among the highest in recent years. Last year, there were no state traffic fatalities during the Memorial Day weekend, according to news clips. In 2003, four people were killed over the weekend; seven were killed in 2002, according to clips.

    Also yesterday, Nicholas J. Dayos, 74, of Mashpee, who was a passenger in a 1995 Mercedes, died on Interstate 495 south in Middleborough after being ejected from the car as it rolled over about 11:40 a.m. The driver, Ryan A. Guinta, 20, of Brockton, was injured and taken to a hospital, State Police said. The accident is under investigation.

    In Worcester, Amber Bird, 19, and Luis Rivera, 21, both of Worcester, were killed in a two-car accident on East Mountain Street early Saturday morning. Four others were seriously injured, Worcester police said.

    According to the Telegram & Gazette of Worcester, Bird was attempting to make a left turn or U-turn when her car was struck by a car driven by Jason St. Hilaire, 21, also of Worcester. Another passenger in Bird's car and Hilaire and his two passengers were taken to hospitals, where they were being treated for a variety of injuries, according to the newspaper. Worcester police familiar with the case could not be reached.

    Police were also investigating a car accident that happened Friday night in Berlin, in which a 17-year-old boy was killed and four other teens were injured. State Police said the vehicle, driven by Jorge M. Pena, 18, of Haverhill, hit the wall alongside the southbound ramp from Interstate 495 at Route 62. Pena was flown to UMass Memorial Medical Center, where he was in fair condition yesterday, hospital officials said. The victim's name and the names and conditions of the other passengers were not available. [​IMG]
     
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    Lightning kills Boy Scout at Utah camp

    SALT LAKE CITY (AP) — A bolt of lightning killed a 15-year-old Boy Scout and injured three others while they slept in a log shelter during a violent storm.
    "There was a big flash and a big boom," said Stephen Morris, a trauma surgeon at the University of Utah's burn unit who was with the troop. "Somebody came running down the trails saying, 'Help, we need help.'"

    Morris said he tried in vain for 90 minutes to revive the boy, who had no heartbeat and wasn't breathing after the strike Tuesday night.

    The family of the victim, Paul Ostler, released a statement thanking leaders and doctors at the scout camp "who tried so valiantly to save Paul's life."

    "I just sat on the bed and cried. I couldn't go to sleep. I was just sitting there thinking 'this poor guy,'" Morris told Salt Lake television station KUTV.

    Two of the injured boys were flown to the University of Utah burn unit. One 13-year-old boy was in good condition and the family of the other asked that no information be released by the hospital. The third boy, also 13, was released Wednesday after being treated for minor burns, said his father, Doug Edwards.

    The accident marked the second deadly lightning strike to hit a Boy Scout camp in the last week. Last Thursday, an assistant Scoutmaster and a 13-year-old Scout were killed by a lightning strike in California's Sequoia National Park.

    Four Scout leaders at the National Boy Scout Jamboree in Virginia were electrocuted July 25 in front of several Scouts after they lost control of a metal pole at the center of a large dining tent, sending it toppling into nearby power lines.

    During the Utah strike, all four boys were bedding down in a corner of the cabin during the storm, said Edwards, a troop leader.

    "From what we can tell, it appears the lightning hit a tree next to us, came down and came out of the tree and just into some nails that were driven into the cabin to hold the logs together," Edwards said.

    Two other boys and another scout leader in the log structure were not injured, Edwards said. All six boys belong to the same Salt Lake troop.

    Camp Steiner is the highest Boy Scout camp in the country at 10,400 feet elevation in the Uinta Mountains, a magnet for thunderstorms on summer afternoons about 60 miles east of Salt Lake City.

    The victim's parents, Brent and Teresa Ostler of Salt Lake City, said Paul was an Eagle Scout, the highest rank in scouting, usually attained at an older age of 17 or 18. But in Utah, the Mormon Church advances its scouts more quickly so they can prepare for a proselytizing mission.
     
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    5-year-old Hickory boy drowns in swimming pool.

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    Byline: Dan Duffey

    Apr. 29--A 5-year-old Hickory boy drowned in the swimming pool at his apartment complex Wednesday night, police said.

    Devon Foote was playing with his 10-year-old brother in the outdoor, common area of the Willow Tree Apartments on 11th Avenue N.E. in Hickory, authorities said. The children's grandmother, Mary Mull, was in the children's...
     
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    10-month-old boy drowns in swimming pool
    (07.07.04) — (New Smyrna Beach-AP) -- A 10-month-old boy drowned in his family swimming pool. Police say Robert Holl died at a hospital about a half an hour after he was found yesterday afternoon. Thirty-two-year-old Lisa Holl told deputies her son tumbled into the pool after he apparently wandered out the home's back door. Investigators say the family's pool is fenced in, but there is no security fencing between the back door and the pool. The mother pulled Robert out of the deep end of the pool but he wasn't breathing
     
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    An 11-year-old boy visiting St. Louis with a church group has drowned at the Holiday Inn pool near Six Flags in Eureka.

    The incident is still under investigation, but police say it appears this was an accidental drowning.

    The boy has been identified as Terrance Walker, 11, of Fryer's Point, Mississippi.

    Investigators say Walker was staying at the Holiday Inn in Eureka with members of his church group. They traveled from Mississippi by bus.

    Around 9:30 p.m. Tuesday, Walker was in the hotel swimming pool along with several guests when someone noticed he was lying on the bottom of the pool.

    Eureka Police Lt. Dave Wilson says, "One of the hotel employees, I believe, dove into the pool, pulled the child from the pool, and some guests there began CPR until the fire department arrived."

    Walker was taken to an area hospital where he was pronounced dead.

    Investigators are still in the process of interviewing witnesses.

    The hotel pool is located indoors and does not have a lifeguard on duty, however, there is an attendant at the pool.

    There is no word yet on whether Walker knew how to swim.

    Eureka police say Walker's parents were not in Eureka, however his 12-year-old sister was.

    The St. Louis County Health Department responded to the pool, as is normal when a drowning incident occurs. Tests were done on the water clarity and quality. The pool passed both tests. The water was crystal clear and the floor drain was clearly visible from the surface.

    Prior to Wednesday's testing of the pool's water, the St. Louis County Health Department was last at the Holiday Inn, Eureka on July 8 for a routine test of the pool water. The July 8th test also came back with no problems.
     
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    QUARTZ HILL - A 2-year-old Palmdale boy drowned Sunday after he wandered away and fell into a swimming pool in a back yard near the vacant house where his father and a friend were working.

    Roque Ivan Fajardo was found floating face down under the pool cover in the back yard in the 42400 block of Breeze Way shortly before 8 p.m.,
     
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    NEW PORT RICHEY - A 3-year-old boy drowned in a backyard swimming pool Sunday afternoon in the Hidden Lake Estates subdivision, the Pasco County Sheriff's Office reported.

    Bishop Deighton of Holiday was at his grandparents' home at 8905 Fairchild Court when he was found in the pool, Lt. Gary Kling of the sheriff's office said.

    Pasco County Fire Rescue received a call at 2:06 p.m. After emergency workers arrived, the boy was flown to Morton Plant North Bay Hospital. He was pronounced dead at 5 p.m., Kling said.

    Investigators were told the child had been playing with a puppy shortly before he was found in the pool, Kling said.

    The investigation is continuing, he said.

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    Goetsch v. Eckerd Colt. Props., Inc., Fla., Pinellas County 6th Jud. Cir. Ct., No. 01-5225CI-21, July 26, 2002.

    Goetsch, 15, was swimming in a pool owned by Eckerd College. While practicing holding his breath, he apparently lost consciousness. Goetsch drowned. He is survived by his parents and four minor siblings.

    Goetsch's mother, personally and on behalf of her son's estate, sued the college, alleging negligence. Among other things, plaintiffs alleged the college failed to provide an appropriate lifeguard lookout chair and adequate training for its lifeguards. Additionally, plaintiffs alleged the lifeguard on duty was recklessly inattentive and failed to immediately begin lifesaving measures on Goetsch.

    The college settled for $1.55 million and has reportedly made changes to its safety policies.

    Plaintiffs' experts were Jerome H. Modell, drowning, Gainesville, Fla.; and Thomas C. Ebro, aquatic safety, Miami Fla.
     
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    10-year-old boy drowned at a busy open-air pool yesterday when swimmers and lifeguards failed to realise that he had got into difficulties.

    The boy, who has not been named, had gone to the pool in Welwyn Garden City, Herts, on a day out with his aunt and cousins. Amanda Marshall, 25, from Tottenham, north London, said the pool in Stanborough Park was crowded with hundreds of people, none of whom noticed that the boy was struggling.

    "The pool was filled with children of all ages," she said. "Kids were splashing around and jumping in and out of the pool. He could have been lying on the bottom for ages, even though the water is crystal clear.

    "When someone finally noticed him, it was sheer havoc. There were maybe five or six lifeguards on duty at the time, but it was only when someone in the water raised the alarm that the boy was pulled out.

    "The woman he was with had been sunbathing while he was drowning, but when she realised what had happened she went absolutely out of control. People had to struggle to control her as she fought to get to the boy."

    Although staff at Stanborough Splashland tried to revive him, he did not regain consciousness and was certified dead on arrival at Queen Elizabeth Hospital.

    Hertfordshire Police said the boy had not been formally identified as they were still trying to contact his family. They said that although details of the accident were still unclear the death was not being treated as suspicious.

    A spokeswoman for Welwyn Hatfield council, which runs the swimming pool, said: "This is a terribly sad day. Police and the Health and Safety executive are looking into it and so is the coroner. The pool was fully staffed with lifeguards trained according to regulations, but it is too early to start talking about what did or didn't happen."
     
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    A 5-year-old boy who escaped from his parents' attention for 10 minutes drowned in a Mesa apartment complex swimming pool Saturday evening.

    Alex Johnson apparently fell into the pool at the Shadow Creek Apartments at Dobson Road and University Drive after passing through an unlatched gate around 7:30 p.m., Mesa fire officials said. A neighbor spotted him and pulled him out, and responding firefighters were able to bring back a faint pulse, according to fire Capt. Paul Carbajal. But Alex died later at Desert Samaritan Hospital. It wasn't known how long the boy was in the water before he was discovered.
     

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