Can Turkey Re-interpret Islam?

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  1. eagle86100

    eagle86100 Member

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    "This reform project hit the headlines this week when the BBC ran a story on what it called “a revolutionary reinterpretation of Islam - and a controversial and radical modernisation of the religion“. It said the revision of the hadith, the collection of the sayings of the Prophet Mohammad that are second only to the Koran as an authority for Muslims, was something akin to a Protestant Reformation in Islam."

    Any thoughts?
     
  2. SunLion

    SunLion Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    I don't know what to think, it sounds like it could be a big deal though. I'll pass this to my son- his girlfriend has dual US and Turkish citizenship, and goes to school in Istanbul, so she may have heard of it. I think I remember that the Reformation in the Christian world was a time of great upheaval and conflict, but I'm very weak in world history.

    It seems that religious books mean so little in reality. Rather than truly use them for guidance, people usually make their own choices and then look to the ancient books for proof that what they want to do is "god's will." And in any book you can find anything, when reading between the lines a bit. That's a slight oversimplification, but I think it's basically what people really do with religious texts.

    Thanks for sharing that article, I'll keep my ears perked and try to follow this as it develops further.
     
  3. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    Islam is heading for a meltdown, with or without Turkey.

    The infighting between the factions is really just getting started. And their prophecy depends on this coming to a head. The Mahdi's arrival depends on it.

    Just as there are Christians in the west who are attempting to speed up the arrival of "their" messiah, there are Muslims which are attempting the same thing. Iran's leader is the most visible participant in this rift.


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  4. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    I support a full re-examination of Islamic Law, however I remain skeptical this will actually work to change the culture of Islam. It fails to protect the well-being of people by federal law, and that's where my focus will be once I am Queen of the universe.
     
  5. eagle86100

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    REUTER Writes:

    Turkey “not reforming Islam, but itself” with hadith review

    February 29th, 2008, filed by Tom Heneghan

    Ali Bardakoglu, Turkey’s top religious official, says his country’s effort to purge the hadith of sexism and superstition is not an attempt to reform Islam but to change the Turkish way of practising it. This reform project hit the headlines this week when the BBC ran a story on what it called “a revolutionary reinterpretation of Islam - and a controversial and radical modernisation of the religion“. It said the revision of the hadith, the collection of the sayings of the Prophet Mohammad that are second only to the Koran as an authority for Muslims, was something akin to a Protestant Reformation in Islam.

    Reacting to those reports, Bardakoglu, who is chairman of the Department of Religious Affairs, told the daily Sabah: “A team of 80 are scanning all existent hadith. For example, words humiliating women are attributed to the prophets. We are combing through such interpretations. We will publish six volumes. However, what we are doing is not reform on Islam… we are not reforming Islam; we are reforming ourselves, our own way of religiosity.” ‘

    His deputy Mehmet Görmez told another daily, Zaman, that the BBC’s interpretation of the reform as a “radical modernisation” was wrong, saying: “We are going to take the appropriate legal measures for redress.”

    What’s up? Are we talking about a revolution in Islam here? Well, not quite. The aim is to publish a revised collection of hadith to be used in Turkey as a reference work for fatwas and other work of religious interpretation. The scholars are using modern methods of interpretation of the hadith to assess their validity, an approach that conservative scholars reject. But this is not a reinterpretation of the Koran, the absolute centre of authority. Islamic exegesis gets revolutionary when it is turned towards deconstructing the Koran, which Muslims believe is the literal word of Allah.

    This project is not going there. It follows in a tradition of assessing and classifying hadith that dates back to the early days of the faith. So Bardakoglu and Görmez had no problem saying the project was not reforming Islam. The rejected hadith will not disappear; they’ll still be on the books in many other Muslim countries. But Turkey’s state-approved religious establishment won’t use them.

    This is an updating of some aspects of Islam, though, and Bardakoglu and Görmez probably played that down so they don’t ruffle too many conservative feathers. The project is weeding out some hadith that Turkish Islam scholars say were written down long after after the Prophet’s death and are little more than handed-down hearsay. These doubtful passages often contradict other sayings of Mohammad or express views that don’t jibe with his. The goal is “to convey the universal message of the Prophet Mohammed to the 21st century“, the Directorate of Religious Affairs (Diyanet) said in a statement on Thursday.

    The project was well described two years ago in this Washington Post article by Mustafa Akyol, who gave a few examples of passages due to be cut:

    “Women are imperfect in intellect and religion.”
    “The best of women are those who are like sheep.”
    “If a woman doesn’t satisfy her husband’s desires, she should choose herself a place in hell.”
    “If a husband’s body is covered with pus and his wife licks it clean, she still wouldn’t have paid her dues.”
    “Your prayer will be invalid if a donkey, black dog or a woman passes in front of you.”
    Felix Körner, a German Jesuit priest at Ankara University, is quoted in many of the reports. He has been studying the “Ankara School” of modern Islamic theology for several years and published a book about it in 2005 called Revisionist Koran Hermeneutics in Contemporary Turkish University Theology. Note the adjective “revisionist” — not revolutionary or radical.

    Ali Eteraz, who has written a lot on reform in Islam, has trashed this effort as “fool’s gold” because he sees it mostly as the state meddling in religious affairs: “In my mind, this initiative has more to do with Turkey’s AKP party trying to get into the European Union. “Look, we threw out all the bad hadith,” it seems to be saying. “Now let us in! … Ultimately, this entire hadith affair represents an attempt on the part of Turkey to “nationalise” its Islam. Nothing more.”

    Politics plays a part (Diyanet is a government body, after all) but this is not primarily a ploy to fool Brussels. Ali’s right that the Turkish state is meddling in Islam and that the idea of invalidating some hadith is nothing new. His opposition to having a state lead the reform effort is understandable. And yes, some coverage of the reform got pretty excited. Still, this reform reflects a broader trend of reinterpreting texts in Islam and the wider effect of it being endorsed by the religious authorities shouldn’t be underestimated. Many Muslim thinkers want a more modern interpretation of Islam — a lot of them are here in France — but this is regularly blocked by conservative religious establishments. Change on this front will only come step by step, and even a state authority like Diyanet can make some of it happen.
     

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