Canada's Senate Committee Passes Bill S-10 with Mandatory Jail Sentencing

Discussion in 'Cannabis News' started by lunarverse, Nov 29, 2010.

  1. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    UPDATE! Apparently someone jumped the gun on this one. Great news! It has not passed the Senate yet and hopefully it will not.
    Please call or email your Member of Parliament's office and tell them not to support Bill S-10!

    This is a very scary bill and would be an epic fail on the government's part, costing them billions of dollars to fix and expand Canada's prison systems and staff. Not only that but it would be a massive blow to the cannabis legalization/decriminalization movement that only 4 years ago was looking very good here in Canada.

    Prison staff have been more than outspoken about how this bill will create extremely unsafe prisons, not only for the guards but for the prisoners themselves, as inmate populations are guaranteed to rise. There won't be enough guards to properly protect themselves or the inmates from other inmates, and not only that but the inmates will be forced to double bunk in cells which have been techincally deemed as an "inhumane" size to keep animals in.

    This bill has mandatory sentences for extracting from cannabis. That means that everyone and anyone with a buster that collects plant tissue and trichomes in the bottom could be looking at a mandatory prison sentence of at least 18 months in jail.

    This is Harper's one last effort to be able to say he did one thing while Prime Minister of Canada. This bill had already passed before when it was suddenly written off because Harper, "prorogued Parliament in the wake of allegations of Canadian involvement in torture in Afghanistan."

    Harper will be out of office next year so he's trying to make sure he slides this one back in under the radar before he goes. He's had close ties with and a fondness for certain American political leaders since day one (he was real cozy with George W. Bush) and he's tried to please them by taking after their 'War on Drugs'. He started up this whole 'Zero Tolerance' drug policy after he won office as the Liberals at the time were open about the idea of decrimializaing cannabis. Cannabis was technically legalized in Ontario for a short period of time a few years ago due to some loop hole in the old drug policy. Harper's had it out to re-write it ever since.

    The entire time Harper has been blatantly lying by saying the bill focuses more on organized crime and big time drug dealers. But the truth is that this bill will make a criminal out of each and every Canadian who enjoys cannabis.

    http://cannabisculture.com/v2/conte...-10-Mandatory-Jail-Growing-5-Marijuana-Plants
     
  2. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    Gee Marijuana must be so very BAD as to require mandatory minimum sentencing! It must be the worst crisis Canada has ever had to face if it's requiring such draconian measures.

    This will only inspire the Mexican cartels to setup shop in Canada since it will now be so illegal for medical patients to get what they need.

    Good, get used to the upcoming drug violence in Canada thanks to Prohibition. BTW, prohibition never works, it only enriches criminals.
     
  3. Duck

    Duck quack. Lifetime Supporter

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    And here I thought Canada was much more liberal and forward looking than the US.
     
  4. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    Canada has never seen conservativism like that of Stephen Harper. Simply put, the man is a complete menace to freedom and is the most useless Prime Minister this country has ever seen. He`s fucked around for 4 years now, closing down Parliament, biding his time, forcing elections to try and gain a majority government. He`s wasted billions of Candian tax dollars and this bill S-10 that he supports is guaranteed to waste billions more. Not only that but it potentially makes criminals out of youth all across the country. Could you imagine an 18 year old being sentenced to 18 months in jail because his buster collects residue in the bottom?! It`s absurd.

    Simply put Harper is the biggest fuck up you could imagine. I`ve had bowel movements that accomplished more than his guy.

    Ironically the PC in his party`s title stands for Progressive Conservatives.
     
  5. wa bluska wica

    wa bluska wica Pedestrian

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    why don't they just ban all flowering plants and get it over with?
     
  6. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    The reason this bill seems so incredibly ridiculous is that there seems to be no real motivation for it. In fact the opposite, as not only will the bill cost the government billions of dollars to hire new law enforcement, and process court issues, but it will cause our entire prison system to be changed. The PC party is proposing building at least one new entire prison that I know of, as well as adding new wings and expansions to ones that already exist. On top of that they`ll need to shell out all that money to hire new prison guards, on top of the ones who are outspoken about their poor job conditions as they currently are.

    As I mentioned it`ll also force prisoners to double bunk, which does and already has lead to big problems that compromise the health and well being of both the prisoners and the guards.

    I really can`t for the life of me understand why this bill is even being considered. Last year when the conservative party tried it the senate put a stop to it. They even said it was ridiculous and thought the Liberal party`s idea of 200 plants or more mandatory sentence was a better idea. This time around they said they didn`t stop it because they didn`t want to put up a fight. If they won`t put up a fight, who the hell will? The government sure as hell isn`t going to listen to the people. They`ve demonstrated that countless times before.
     
  7. slappyman

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    What a pile of BS!

    Are your prisons all government run or do you also have prisons run by corporations like here in the states?

    It seems like everytime something like this happens, somebody stands to make money and it sure isn't going to be the people that are trying to help others.
     
  8. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    As far as I know they`re federal government owned and operated prisons. I didn`t know the US had prisons owned by corporations, that`s fucking scary!
     
  9. largeamount

    largeamount Senior Member

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    6 months for over 5 plants isnt that bad...
     
  10. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    As I said, anyone with a buster that collects residue would atutomatically become a criminal facing a minimum of 18 months in jail. So practically everyone who smokes weed.

    Not to mention it makes criminals out of some medical cannabis users. So what, they go to jail and are denied their medicine whereas yesterday they could happily use cannabis to relieve their symptoms?
     
  11. Duck

    Duck quack. Lifetime Supporter

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    any time for any plant is horribly fascist.
     
  12. slappyman

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    Check the link I've attached and you'll be even more scared. Prisoners are big business here in the States.

    Reading the attached link might make you see why passing such a useless bill makes more sense to the powers that be.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=8289
     
  13. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    Jeeze, I was completely in that dark about most of that! I thought they just made license plates and did landscaping type of work. That`s extremely disturbing. All I can really say is I`m glad I don`t live there.

    This stood out above everything else;

    "Rockefeller anti-drug law", that made me shudder. Wherever you see the name Rockefeller you know citizens are being fucked over and treated like nothing more than worker bees thanks to some men behind the curtain with deep pockets.
     
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    scary is the mass line movements to Medication line. It also takes up prison staff, and continuous monitoring of the residents receiving them so they may not pass them off..
    Most medications are also given to inmates that do not need them, often by psychiatrist : The percentage of inmates in county jails that receive medication is a little higher due to the fact many of them are awaiting sentencing or have small sentences that they can sleep off.... More or less many Inmates choose to get medications only to sleep their time away: This is actually damaging to the well being of the individual in the long run..

    Many here know that Ive spent sometime behind the prison walls: if you havent- I worked corrections as an Electrical Shop Supervisor: During this time I meet an inmate; we will call him JD. JD one day returned to the shop after leaving on a pass to see his doctor. JD then returned a little while later saying . "Dr Klastorney - I remember the name it was Russian saying "he took my medication from me, he said I wasnt psychotic and he didnt know why I was on such medication?"

    A month goes by I see alot of improvements in this inmates overall behavior. He was more outgoing (yes I evaluated them) he was working better, more talkative, funny .. matter a fact one of the guys I really liked..

    No sooner this month goes by JD returns to his psychiatrist, he returns with an attitude. He says now his Russian doctor is no more, that he has been terminated?.. Puzzling this was to me for I also know other inmates treated by him and they seem to be happy: Happy indeed cause he was not giving them harmful medications.. JD later explains that this new doctor is now giving him Xyprexa and he refused to take it..

    In a week JD is in a RHU(restricted housing unit) for fighting with this new doctor, in a few more weeks many more inmates were becoming problematic due to this Medication switch around. It then became the buzz talk around the institution that the Russian doctor was helping more inmates than he was forcing medication on .. The newer doctor were then also terminated and replaced , but Im sure the cycle continues til today and will so tomorrow and the days after..
     
  15. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    I`m sorry, I didn`t quite understand all of that. Was the doctor giving the inmates some sort of medication to alter their moods, and if so, why?
     
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    yes Psychiatric medication is big business in the prison system.. :devil::devil: VERY VERY BIG.. :devil::devil:
     
  17. wa bluska wica

    wa bluska wica Pedestrian

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    to make them manageable

    :dizzy2:
     
  18. ChronicTom

    ChronicTom Banned

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    Sadly, I pretty much gave up hope for our country when harper prorogued parliment the first time... The second time was just plain it for me...

    As I have no faith that people are smart enough to vote him out, I expect him to be dictator for life until proven otherwise...

    (Which I hope is soon...)
     
  19. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    I see...that's equally disturbing. I had no idea the prison systems were so fucked up and corrupt. I feel so naive as I type this.
     
  20. slappyman

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    So then there is another player making money off our ever increasing prison population.
     

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