Children Killing Children

Every few months or so theres another news report of a shoot out in an american school.why are there so many children killing children in america?when i say children, i mean people in their teens,who are not yet adults.how worried are all other adult citizens about these repeated circumstanses? and what measures are the american goverment taking to try and prevent more of these tragic killing sprees in the future? and why are these teens so angry inside in the first place, that they end up taking mulitple students out and also themselves sometimes too? after the act.

 

Off the top of my head, it seems I've read that alot of these kids are on antidepressant medications and/or ADHD medications.

 

roamy you sure like to focus on the negative in the greatest nation in the world I have noticed.

typically these kids are loners and / or were bullied.

it's a psychological thing to react with anger at the stimuli you feel has hurt you. I imagine this is what's going on here. they want what they feel has hurt them to feel it right back.

they're trying to increase security by adding more police and locking doors, making it so u have to go through the office to get in the bulding, etc. they are even allowing certain teachers and principals to have firearms at school in some places now. I'm not sure how well this deters it though as anyone can be let in by a student who doesn't know any better (if they aren't a student already, that is)

 

How worried? Worried enough to that when I have kids they will either be homeschooled or private schooled. I live in a good school district but public schools are too much like institutions, and I mean that in a bad way. I'd rather pay for private school, don't want a damn thing from the gov't except my social security when I'm in my 60s simply because it is my money that I paid into the system.

The gov't is taking no measures, just focusing on the wrong aspects of the situation and is pissing in the wind at that. You aren't going to disarm America.. and guns are not the cause.

Many kids are mad because they are disconnected from any sense of community, their parents are too busy working their asses off for big businesses (as just a number, not a person with a life outside of work) and doing the best they can just to keep a roof over their head. Or they are making it big but still as focused on money. No matter the demographic, all parties are hemorrhaging money to the gov't in the form of taxes. To be used on shit the majority disagrees with, for example supporting people who are capable but don't want to work and would rather sit around getting high and collecting gov't checks.

Kids can't be kids anymore, they can't go home to a mom that gives them a snack then they take off in the neighborhood until dark. They are forced into structure at school, structure after school at daycare or whatever, then if they act out the least bit they are drugged with drugs that have empirical evidence showing a propensity to cause suicidal/homicidal thoughts.

 

Greatest nation in the world? What era are we in again?

Anyways, yeah, there isn't much being done about it really. Just lots of news coverage. Frankly I think it's obvious that more mental health precautions should be taken in schools. I don't mean putting the kids on pharmaceuticals, but making school less of a horrible drain on life.

Interpersonal skills should be taught earlier and bullying really needs to be handled. Other factors seem to include family and community relationships.

 

What he said. My kid is homeschooled. I hated school and the entire way that I grew up. I wasn't alone. Nothing is any different now than it was then.

 

Bingo.

 

no not at all. i'm just aware of whats going on in the world in every country.and i don't see discussing any topic as a negative.as a matter of fact it's a very positive thing to discuss important matters,to get different viewpoints from others as to all the positive things that could be done, to turn negatives into positives. so you think theres children killing children because they feel hurt.possibly.good to hear those measures have been take.hopefully it will help.

 

We should ban violent television, take away all the guns and tell everyone to be nice to each other.

XD.

But seriously.

http://money.msn.com/now/post--will-2013-mark-record-gun-sales-in-us

More guns means more people who irresponsibly stow their weapons. The increase in public shootings overall are to blame as well. Young adults are learning that its an option when critical mental mass is reached.

You can also buy a weapon at age 18. Now I believe that's a bit young. I was still very confused and more susceptible to fear and fury at 18. I'm 22 now and I'm still figuring things out. I'm definitely purchasing a rifle by Q2 of next year. Because I can. Because I am able and because so many others are treating their right to bear arms as an obligation, I feel I must as well. I don't want to be the one caught without one. It feels obligatory. I understand why people are buying them up like crazy.

It's culture when you boil it down to a basic word. No one item or person is the problem. It's a sad part of our culture now. I wish it would go away like you probably do. I do not think however that limiting guns, or ammunition is the right way to solve it. We need to let it phase out of our culture, letting the people breathe a bit would probably speed that whole process up but what do I know.

 

Are you in favor of banning drugs too? How's that working out?

 

I find it kind of a little ironic that its an Irish person saying that.

I find in Sydney its the drunken Scottish and Irish tourists that are the most aggressive.

And if we were to check the stats, no. of irish teens that get king hit, or stabbed and killed vs kids that get shot by other kids in the US...as a % of their respective populations, the outcome would be.....?

 

Everyone just loves to put in their .02 about what is wrong with America and how to fix it, rather than deal with their own shit.

 

thats a good plan.homeschooling or private schooling. though i think homeschooling would be the best.more personal,as a lot of kids would feel very lonely for their familys in private schools.but either would be a lot more protective for your future children given the present circumstances.they would definitely be safer.well they should start focusing on the right aspects,as there are too many of those tragic incidents going down there.i can understand parents needing ta hold down a job to care for their children.but making it big an still focusing on money,when they have enough money already and the option to spend more quality time with their children i don'nt approve of.though money is an evil necessity, it is not everything.enough should be enough,then go home and be with your kids.and i think the only people who should be getting welfare support are just all the vunerable groups who need it.people with genuine health problems or disabilitys,be they pysical or mental.or people who are genuinely trying to find work but can't, ta help them til they do.thats so sad.kids should always be able to be kids.and i'm totally against children being drugged up.i think thats disgraceful.all children are different,some may be a little more hyperactive than others.but let them be.there should be a law against that in my opinion.

 

So amend the question...

What is wrong with kids that commit violent crimes (regardless of where they live)?

 

amend the question ?

 

a·mend
əˈmend/Submit
verb
1.
make minor changes in (a text) in order to make it fairer, more accurate, or more up-to-date.

 

there's this thing called statistics. there's this thing called large populations.
now there are also statistical differences between different large populations.
these latter are rooted in, or at least affected by, dominant ambient culture.

so in america there is this crazy thing about everyone having to be allowed and encouraged to have guns.

so there are a lot people having a lot of guns and sometimes some of them shoot each other, and sometimes they are very young to be doing so.

there are other cultural factors involved too. such as the self contradiction that while bullying is bad, being popular enough to get away with it, is called, in american/western culture, leadership.

 

i have perfect understanding of the literal meaning of the word amend thank you. amend what text aery? can you be more specific. who are you talking to and what particular portion of text are you refering to ?

 

You're right, but that is what this country is about. It was formed via armed revolution against England. It's always been armed and rugged but not so sick that it is violent like this on a large scale. You aren't going to take the guns away, but you could possibly influence fixing the causes of this violent pathology.

 

its a fantasy to imagine we can somehow separate the two. we need to face and accept the reality that they go together.

if 'tradition' has to be sacrificed to stop people from killing each other, then screw this kind of 'tradition', that benefits no one and hurts us all.