Whats the purpose of being circumcised? I really just i found out that its really a religious issue and cosmetic surgery... Am i missing something here?
At one time it was thought that circumsising a baby would prevent him from masturbating as a teen. (This was thought to be a good thing.) When it was seen that this didn't work, there were claims that circ. was cleaner than un-circ. That's not true either. In the US, circumsision is ritual genital mutilation with no medical benifit. It is similar to female genital mutilation in that the parents who have it done to their sons think they are doing a good thing. Don't circumsise your sons. and don't hate parents who didn't know better.
lol, are you gonna show us some proof? also ever thought to wash the area, everyday or daily if you that crazy about the infections... Not like these infections are that serious right?
If either side has a source, it would be more useful than 'Wrong''Wrong''Wrong'.. "Although cancer of the penis is very rare, it's less common in circumcised men." "The risk of urinary tract infections in the first year is low, but these infections may be up to 10 times as common in uncircumcised baby boys." both quotes from Mayo Foundation for Medical Education and Research. Parents need to weigh the low probability of these infections vs. the certain loss of sensation to their son.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_analysis_of_circumcision Guys, I know of 2 men who have had their foreskin removed as adults (one was 16) because their foreskin was congesting their urinary tract and causing infections. It does happen. And they were all fine afterwards. I'm of the opinion, why mess with what works? And that's my attitude. I have never TOLD ANYONE IN THIS DISCUSSION WHAT TO DO WITH THEMSELVES - thank you very much. Oh, and FFF - read the HIV section of the article if you have the time. Apparently there is a drastic reduction in the rate of contracting-spreading HIV in several studies, however it's been repeatedly challenged. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_effects_of_circumcision Normally as a parent, one is far more concerned about the risks of infections for your child above his or her sexual pleasure in the modern world today. I don't believe most parents are in favour of performing the procedure to hinder their son's sexual pleasure - unlike what takes place when females are to be circumsized. On the one side, in the article that I linked above, the only solid statistic that they seem to have is that circumsized men have improved sexual endurance over noncircumsized men. Which is different from NO SEXUAL PLEASURE at all.
If someone needs a circumcision, then its a decision between him and his doctor. (Does that argument sound familiar?) But like abortion, circumcision should not be routinely performed on infants. If there is no positive reason for it, don't. If something develops later (or the grown man makes an unusual decision) the circumcision can be done later. Give your sons control over their own bodies.
Where was I lecturing dear? I'm actually of the opinion to leave what already works. I'm also of the opinion that people have a right to know their risks irregardless of how many seem to believe they are not worth knowing.
This topic will always be a problematic issue! *sigh* I say, do what you feel like, but be informed first, from RELIABLE sources. And don't force anything on anyone, i.e. your children. Though it is a bit like having your ears pierced as a child - you grow up used to having those two little holes without giving a damn. If you think about it, there is no real disadvantage in either choice, circ or no circ, only in religious/aesthetic terms. Anybody can get an infection if they're not careful, there are much worse diseases out there.
man these topics are so stupid, it's always just mudthrowing... I'm intact and I'm not gonna circumcise my baby either... He can get that if he wants (which he won't) but he can't grow his skin back if he doesn't like my choice... Circumcising your baby is like getting their hair lasered off when they're born cause you think it'll look better bald and they won't have dirty hair If you get my drift... You gave birth to the child, but it's not yours... Let them chose... Same goes for religion
I am circumsized and I am damn proud of it. Someone here mentioned a loss of sensation. This is total rubbish. I have heard some say this before about how the head loses sensetivity in people who are cut. Well, if I have lost some sensetivity, then I am glad because during sex, the head of mine can get so sensetive that it is almost unbearable. Otherwise, mine is much easier to clean, and it looks a damn site better than a shrivley uncut one. I am all for circumcision, if only for the benefits of a much better looking member and an easier to clean one at that. I see some here say why have it done to your infants. Ok, I will ask this, why not? There are benefits to being circumsized and there are absolutely no benefits to not being circumsized. Simple as that.
come on guys, if you wanna know some information about something like this, as in something with only 2 strongly opposite opinions, dont go on a forum. go look it up. in forums you wil get people arguing andf thats it
the way i see it, men weren't circumsciced for thousands of years, and it's only very recently that a signifigant part of the population has accepted it. why change what works? however, it's understandable that both sides want to say the way they are is "better". well, who in the hell has a right to say "i'm better then you because i do/don't have skin covering the head of my penus." what's truly important here is what you personally think, and what your partner thinks. who cares what somebody thinks who lives hundreds of miles away? we all have access to the internet. learn the facts, make your own decision.
Not to play devil's advocate any further into this, but I feel it necessary to correct revolution_time's statement that men weren't circumcised for thousands of years. Men have been circumcised for at least over 2,000 years as a symbol of the covenant that God has with his people (Jewish, Muslim, and Christian). I can't remember if Egyptians, Greeks, Mesopotamians, Mayans, Chinese or Indians also were known to circumcise their boys because of religion or some other reason. History is not my subject. Maybe someone would be interested in reading the history of circumcision at a book store.
as far as i know, the jewish peoples are the first documented civilization to start circumscion. but, you took me out of context. i said it's only quite recently that any SIGNIFIGANT part of the population has been circumsciced. and if you visit much of the rest of the world, you'll find they would never dream of circumscing their children for no reason. but that's truly not the point i was trying to make.
ppfftt no reason... man dont you want to look "normal" and be witht he cool crowd... So chop of some your skin and you part of the club...