Cloning

Discussion in 'Science and Technology' started by Hempkid555, May 10, 2005.

  1. Hempkid555

    Hempkid555 Member

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    What are your views on this? Personally, I think it is wrong.
     
  2. Mononucleosis

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    I think the idea of cloning specific parts from a person in order to have transplant would be good. Like hearts from someone and then if that person has a heart attack or needs a heart transplant they can get it.

    Cloning for the sake of making new animals or people I am against. I can picture cloning plants, especially since we are depleating a lot of them right now. That way when we wise up we can have them back and maybe not screw up.
     
  3. Colours

    Colours Senior Member

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    I dont see anything wrong wtih cloning humans, though i cant picture a situation in which cloning would be useful. What do scientists see as a goal in cloning humans, or do they just want to do it for the sake of science?
     
  4. Mononucleosis

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    I think right now it's just the sake of science. We don't need clones now, it's more like practice so they don't have to later on.
     
  5. Trickster

    Trickster Misfit

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    Can you imagine if they cloned you? When the child is 15 for example, it would look exactly like you. It would be completely eerie.
    Can you imagine cloning a whole lot of people? It would be like a parallel universe. The same but not :eek:



     
  6. Mononucleosis

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    I've always been against pure human cloning. Always. We have more than enough people now, why do we have to play God to make more. Only a propnent for a person donating their own cells so a heart or blood or liver could be made that the body would not reject since it's from the same person.

    I got creeped out about cloning when I was 12. Watched Boys from Brazil and I'm not going to say more cause I don't want to ruin the movie.
     
  7. HuckFinn

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    What disturbs me is the prospect of producing expendable cloned human beings for the sake of harvesting spare parts. That's essentially what so-called "therapeutic" cloning of human embryos is all about.


    I think that widespread use of cloning in agriculture could threaten biodiversity. I think we need to be very cautious about reducing life to an industrial raw material or commercial commodity.
     
  8. Mononucleosis

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    I wasn't talking about cloning humans purly for harvest. If we wait till we have the technology we should be able to use the genome well enough so we can just make the organ itself without reconstructing the entire person. And with plants I don't think they should be planted but kept within a stable enviroment if there was ever some sort of disease that lets say wiped out all of the corn or something.
     
  9. adelic86

    adelic86 ~Music!~

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    im not too sure about cloning humans, why would you want more than one identity of someone? i think cloning can be used for a good cause, for example, cloning endangered species, but other than that, wouldn't it just be too odd, even twins aren't exactly the same, but can be simular, but have two exactly the same species would be way to confusing!
     
  10. Cornball1

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    A major problem with cloning that people don't realize is that on the ends of your chromosomes are things called telomeres. Every time your DNA is replicated you lose a little bit of these. These are here to prevent the loss of coding DNA. When you make a clone of an organism you get exactly what you had before and if that clone is in the middle of its life it will have much shorter telomeres and will age faster. Thats why Dolly( the cloned sheep) aged so much faster than other sheep. So even if we cloned a human being that person would start to see age related problems much earlier in life. Until we find how to replace telomeres we can't really have any long term successful clones.
     
  11. Trickster

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    and the "scientists" know this but will try anyway, trying to accomplish something that they know will be flawed. It's called human arrogance.




     
  12. Raelian1

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    All cloning must be supported. Therapeutic cloning has its obvious benefits. One of the purposes of cloning your own body is to obtain immortality. Once you clone your body, it's only a matter of downloading your memory and personality into this cloned body (to obtain this "memory" you must perserve a piece of your forehead bone). If your against cloning for whatever reason, then you're in the same category as George W "Brainhole" Bush and the Vatican and that would be pathetic.
     
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    Once we have the technology to clone people and give them immortality, we obviously must decide who's entitled to it. The Elohim already have guidelines on who is entitled to eternity by cloning.
     
  15. matthew

    matthew Almost sexy

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    Only scientists on the fringe will even bother with clonming people. Not for any other purpose that on the 'orders' of there own ego or cult leaders orders. Nobody in the serious scientific community is going to clone humans, they self regulate and it would be a huge waste of valuable 'lab time' .

    As easy as 1 2 3 ... a peice of your forehead hahaha you can't be serious ?.
     
  16. FallenDreamer

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    Wait a second, what happened 2 all the good and stufff cloning can do. Yes it's a little ridiculous and scfi-ish if u think of it through copying or transfering a person's mind 2 a clone. But don't u think w/ all the freedom of speech and ethnic groups and poeple that the world would never let that happen? or am i being 2 trusting again?
     
  17. Raelian1

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    I'm quite serious. Cloning, like all other science and technology, have benefits we have yet to discover.
     
  18. matthew

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    I am not questioning the cloning , i meant the transplantaion of 'memory' .. that aint never going to happen..especialy with a piece of the forehead , or did you mean frontal lobe ?.
     
  19. innocentpoison333

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    Agreed. I dont think it is right to tamper with life. Life to me is a gift and shouldnt be created in a lab. I also think that if clonning is allowed that something will go wrong. Humans are not perfect and from the past it is easily said we make a lot of mistakes. In the future if clonning is allowed chances are something will go wrong. But I may be wrong, good things may come out of it. It all lies in the future, but as of now I am leaning more towards no that it isnt a great idea.
     
  20. Nimrod's Apprentice

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    I say lets do it before the godless Commie Koreans do it. Seriously enough said, I don't want this to turn into star wars.
     

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