CNN: Marijuana may increase psychosis risk, analysis says

Discussion in 'Cannabis and Marijuana' started by LeapingTiddlywinks!, Jul 27, 2007.

  1. LeapingTiddlywinks!

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  2. sexual_pervert

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    I believe it, just look at this poll http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=250660 26% think marijuana could have caused psychological dmg to them. ofc it's a very small scale survey but still not to be neglected... Not saying you shouldnt smoke but ppl plz stop spreading the bullshit about Mj being harmless. If you gonna do drug you should know what's the risk of doing it.
     
  3. jo_k_er_man

    jo_k_er_man TBD

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    ^^ exactly.. theres a good and bad side to everything in this world
     
  4. mynameisjake07

    mynameisjake07 Banned

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    Yah but if you really think about it that poll that was made could be lopsided and its very inaccurate. It could be more like 50% then 26%, anywho the article is bullshit, 40% increase in mental illness chance?
     
  5. sourdiesel06

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    The question you have to ask yourself is did marijuana usage cause the psychosis or did the psychosis cause the marijuana usage. Correlation is not causation. Also, keep in mind that 99% of statistics are made up on the spot.
     
  6. RancidPunx

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    I'm not in the LEAST bit psychotic.
     
  7. LeapingTiddlywinks!

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    How is this article true? Lol It was put as the TOP headline on CNN... propoganda, anyone? It can cause PSYCHOSIS? C'mon, we're not living in 1945.
    I'm surprised the headline didn't read: "Marihuana: The Devil Drug!". It didn't even mention a positive aspect of it. (of course not)
     
  8. deviate

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    Exactly. There is a problem of direction here

    marijuana ------> psychosis

    or

    psychosis ------> marijuana

    Also I think I read somewhere they found its like 1 or 2% of weed smokers that are "at risk" for developing psychotic symptoms. My question in light of that is how come since millions of westerners began smoking it since the 1960s there hasn't been a correlational growth in schizophrenia.

    This is the latest scare tactic the british are using since they reclassified weed a few years ago, basically legalizing it. They are concerned about the population getting stoned all the time, have less legal recourse, and are now using fear.

    I smoke cannabis regularly, and while I don't tell myself thats a 100% harmless activity, I pay no attention to propaganda like this. The research methods are all flawed.
     
  9. StayLoose1011

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    Regardless of the article which I haven't read, I am certain that marijuana use increases the risk of psychosis. It can really precipitate one's inner monologue getting way out of hand. See my post about last night's bad trip. True, this girl was a bit fragile already, I can admit that, but it doesn't matter, the fact is she wouldn't have had a major panic attack without smoking weed. I never had a panic attack until I smoked weed either. It's not a problem for me, and I'm not "psychotic," but in some individuals I think it can bring out certain tendencies to overthink, overanalyze, freak out, etc.

    And I already know the next response will be "but obviously you are already disposed to mental illness" - so what, that is irrelevant. The fact is I was never paranoid until I started smoking weed, and I have no reason to think that I would have become so without the weed. No one thinks they are disposed to mental illness until it starts to take over, and then it's too late.
     
  10. StayLoose1011

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    and I would like to add that in my opinion, if you're smoking weed and you're doing fine, there's no need to worry. I'm not at all saying it's bad to smoke or particularly risky. But, I do think that certain people can lose it a little bit when they smoke a lot, and I think it's wise for all pot smokers to be aware of that and not to let things get out of control if reality begins to bend a little bit.
     
  11. deviate

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    Buddy, there is a big difference between having paranoid, overanalytical thoughts and experiencing psychosis.
     
  12. skip

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    Read this version of the story from the Daily Mail. It adds MORE propaganda after the story - about three people who supposedly killed after smoking marijuana (read the story closely, none were high on pot at the time!)

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/li...tml?in_article_id=471106&in_page_id=1770&ct=5

    This claim is part of a propaganda blitz against Cannabis by the British Gov't with the media conspiring! First of all the "study" the gov't did, didn't look at anybody in particular, but "cherry picked" from the mass of other studies those that matched their criteria, showing INDIRECT links between marijuana and mental disorders.

    In fact the three "examples" shown in this article are a JOKE!
    The first one admits the guy used COCAINE, not mj before committing murder.

    The second one admits the guy abused ALCOHOL the day of the murder NOT mj.

    The third one the guy DIDN'T smoke MJ that day, and perhaps THAT'S WHY this BORN KILLER killed, because he DIDN'T smoke marijuana, which puts you in a VERY PEACEFUL, NON-VIOLENT mood.

    I've had many friends tell me they smoke MJ precisely to keep their usual aggressive tendencies in check.

    What a SNOW JOB the British GOV'T is doing to try to reclassify cannabis as a B or A class drug.
     
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    I think it does.
     
  15. subHerban Greens

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    Let's go smoke and find out.
     
  16. smokindude

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    Ya, you stoners are the first to congratulate any studies that show marijuanas good effects, but when a study comes in as bad in marijuana's defense, you get all defensIVE towards it. So lets all believe the good and not believe the bad....sheep.
     
  17. StonerBill

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    mhm, it sucks
     
  18. deviate

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    No its more like the majority of "bad" studies are from people that are bought and paid for by the government, its not scientific research.

    From the cnn article "The research, paid for by the British Health Department,"

    The webmd disclaimer "The research was funded by the U.K. Department of Health. Two co-authors were invited experts on the government’s Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs Cannabis Review in 2005; some co-authors received research money or other fees from pharmaceutical companies, including consultation on antipsychotic medication."

    http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/news/20070726/pot-now-psychotic-later?page=2

    From Fox News "In the U.K., the government will soon reconsider how marijuana should be classified in its hierarchy of drugs. In 2004, it was downgraded and penalties for possession were reduced. Many expect marijuana will be bumped up to a class "B" category, with offenses likely to lead to arrests or longer jail sentences. Two of the authors of the study were invited experts on the Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs Cannabis Review in 2005. Several authors reported being paid to attend drug company-sponsored meetings related to marijuana, and one received consulting fees from companies that make antipsychotic medications."

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,291043,00.html
     
  19. smokindude

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    Whatever man..let them say what they want. We all know weed is a drug that WILL come back to hurt you some way if you abuse it and use it for a long long time. All we can do is use it in moderation. If not, use it at your own risk. We dont need some "scientist" telling us if we abuse a mind altering substance that it will come back to bite us in the ass, its commen sense.
     
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    I likes me some cannabis. I'll stop smoking when I want.
     

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