Conspiracy, I dont get it.

Discussion in 'Conspiracy' started by StonerChick, Feb 16, 2008.

  1. StonerChick

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    I've always heard people tell me how messed up our government is. And how it needs to change and everything is going down hill with this crap and how people need to stand up for themselfs and make a change. well damnit im pissed off now and there isnt a single person ive found who can even tell me a good way of changing things. ive gone too many forums like this one, where people talk about being active in changing things...but i dont see people on capital hill trying to change things. i dont see teens and young adults(the major group of people on this site) even getting politicly active, its like people are mad about wats happening and doing nothing.Sitting there, head tilted back mouth open accepting all this garbage we're put threw on a daily basis. Conspiracy...thats all everything we ever say will ever be called untill we actually do something. we're all just nuts, with our god damn conspiracy theroies.

    Like my boyfriend, he doesnt even have the slightest consern for how we're getting our right to live raped from under us. "I don't care we're all gunna die anyway, why does it matter if we speed it up or slow it down."It's a sad truth that makes this world so compliant with wat ever people tell us. just sit there get fat and die slowly so u can pay them more.They alter our food and drinks so that our bodies lose the ability to properly burn fat and the ability to tell our bodies when their full so that they keep eating food they cant burn so u just gain weight and get health problems. That makes you unhealtly and lazy so you are less active, this helps force u sit in school and get brain washed into wat they feel is correct(most of the time it isnt.)Years and years of eating this crap they called food and eventually, boom out of no where diabietes or a heart attack. well shit now ur pretty much paying for hospital bills and medications for the rest of ur life all cos mc D's had a double chease for 99 cent or because starbucks just has the best coffee.
     
  2. Sign Related

    Sign Related The Don Killuminati

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    Those that dont act are the ones that believe they'll be set back if not killed in some way. The problem is fear itself. The gov set up to pump fear in ppl who would act. Few see pass fear and do act in way they can remain unburied from confinements. If everybody acts at the same time then the crooked gov cant stop but surrender to change.
     
  3. Pellinore

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    I'm afraid the people will only come to that point when it is already to late. :)
     
  4. MellowMike

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    You've answered your question (if it was a question) very eloquently in your post.

    The conspiracy is the apathy that we are all being brainwashed into; your boyfriends and everyone else’s attitude in other words. A society focused on entertainment, Wal-Mart, Starbucks, Hollywood, Blowjobs, and such will not notice the freedoms taken from them. A society that is convinced it can not do anything about the loss of these freedoms is already in slavery.

    Don't be fooled, the elitists have engineered it their way, and there will be no protest, no change, no enlightenment. At least until the final plan is accomplished; and the plan is Gods, not the "elitists".

    Best advice I can give is to always check things out, and to try to think outside the box. Don't let anyone tell you what to think without examining things carefully.

    Not to get to deep, but my religion is really the only thing that keeps me afloat so to speak, and faith that we are here for a purpose. All this apathy in the world is the work of the enemy [​IMG]
     
  5. Xac

    Xac Visitor

    Borrow money to buy things you don't want that will kill ya.
     
  6. Wizalsh

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    please explain to me which freedoms have been taken away from you??
    the reason no one is protesting is very simple... things are pretty damn good right now
    complain all you want about how this country sucks and all, but in the end everyone knows its better than anywhere else in the world
     
  7. Xac

    Xac Visitor

    Some people might disagree...
     
  8. MellowMike

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    Here's a thread I started about this a few months ago.

    http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=274389

    If you don't see these presidential directives and legislation as elimination of freedom, or if you're cool with it, fine. But it's my constitution too! And these are really just a few examples of what I'm talking about, that have actually been made into law. If you don't see the web closing around you, cool. I choose to keep my eyes and ears open and watch what's going on around me. [​IMG]
     
  9. killuminati

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    yeah, the biggest debt in recorded history, 11 million+ illegal immigrants, no habaes corpus, unwarranted wiretapping, is awesome, isn't it?
    don't listen to this guy.

    if you're going to say something that dumb, at least state it as an opinion, not a fact.


    actually, people do protest. just because the media chooses not to make it public doesn't mean its not happening. but honestly, i think protest isn't as huge as it could be because people know it won't do shit. i'm sorry, but that's how i see it.. the government has a pretext for everything... so even if you get them to admit wrong, they've already convinced people that something needs to be done. the war is a good example... everybody knows its based off of a single event, which is dumb considering there's not evidence, but why are we still going? the government simply does what they want without asking.

    at this point, people are set up against eachother so bad that one opinion won't speak for all... and as long as thats the case, things don't look to change.
     
  10. MellowMike

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    When I said "there will be no protest" I meant this figuratively. Of course there will be some protesters, but these will by far be in the minority, and most won't be protesting the right things (IMO of course). But the protesters will always be made out by the media to be conspiracy kooks, or radicals of one side or the other. Most folks will be to busy watching Super Bowl commercials, or Amerikan Idol though to protest...
     
  11. Wizalsh

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    hey you can cry all you want, but if shit is really all that bad you would leave right???
     
  12. MellowMike

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    Nobodys cryin' dude. It's about choosing to be ignorant or not. I've made my choice, looks like you have too[​IMG]
     
  13. MellowMike

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    ^Besides, the conspiracy is about a New "World" Order, so where you gonna go???? Fact is the US Constitution is the ONLY thing keepin' the wolves at bay, so to speak.
     
  14. Wizalsh

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    hahaha dude you are out there...
    here is the bottom line: If you think your "losing your freedom" go to another country!
    its very simple... and dont bring your make believe new world order crap as an excuse
     
  15. MellowMike

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    The phrase "go to another country" line has been used for years by "patriots" to deride people whose way of thinking does not coincide with conservative US policies.

    I for one have no problem with "US policies"; excluding those of the current administration. As I stated, I am a believer in the Ten Amendments, and the US Constitution. Since, from everything I can tell anyway, the "conspiracy" is to take these liberties away, and destroy all the freedoms I believe in, I'm forced to acknowledge what I see going on around me, and do something about it.

    And yes, I do have some plans in the works.

    http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=287411

    But as you stated, I am a little out there, and this is something I'd do regardless... Fact is though I'm proud to be a US citizen, so please don’t tell me to "go to another country."

    What is your excuse for letting your freedoms as a US citizen be taken from you? How can you be cool with letting your Constitutional Rights be stolen from under you?
     
  16. MellowMike

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    ^Fact is, some TREASONOUS shyt has been goin' down for a LONG time in this country, and our elected officials who bring this ORCHESTATED plan to fruition by passing treasonous laws are rewarded with money and power, instead of the FIRING SQUAD!
     
  17. Wizalsh

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    yes but the problem with your theory is that isnt not true... you pick and chose things to become part of your "conspiracy"
    and once again our freedoms have not been taken away... unwarranted wiretapping doesnt keep me up all night

    please explain to me how in your life today, febuary 18th, a freedom has been taken away from you??? how is your life worse off PLEASE explain that to me
     
  18. killuminati

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    you just contradicted yourself.
    you said that freedom hasn't been taken away, then you cited an example of freedom being taken away, stating it doesn't "keep you up all night".
    whether or not you give a shit about it, the right to use the phone without the possibility of being wiretapped is freedom.

    proof -
    homegrown terrorism act: http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?ItemID=14427

    loss of habeas corpus:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habeas_corpus#War_on_Terror

    patriot act...

    no habeas corpus means that no investigation is needed for you. so if the government falsely labels somebody a terrorist, they don't even have the chance to defend themselves.
    i mean, if the government will go around falsely labeling people, thats bad in itself, but if they don't even give the people a chance to defend themselves, thats beyond words.

    that was recently passed, yet nobody heard about it. easily the biggest event of last year, but it remained unreported.

    i don't even know why your trying to make it seem we aren't losing freedom... everybody who researches on it knows its true.. the only argument some will argue is if losing the freedom is worth the "protection".. and to that, i quote Benjamin Franklin.
    [size=-1]"Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither.[/size]"


    and wasn't America and it's "patriots" part of the country that prided itself on being tolerant of people beliefs, no matter what? and now you're telling people to leave? thats a contradiction.
    and even if people who point out to obvious corruption aren't Americans, shouldn't they be able to do that? i mean, the US does it all the time, pointing out the flaws of the Middle East and insisting on invading... but when it's done to them its unacceptable?
    what if people love their country so much that they won't stand for it to become technically fascist?
    but i guess that being against a fascist government(corporation controlled) is being against the land of America, huh?

    argue with logic pansy. thanks for playing though. before you respond with you programmed responses, atleast learn the art of debate.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debate
     
  19. Wizalsh

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    blah blah blah blah
    you sure know how to write alot and yet not really prove a point
    as for unwarranted wiretapping.... they dont wiretape everyone its just people who are suspected terrorist
    so i dont know about you but this is a good thing... there is a reason why there hasnt been a single terrorist attack on america since 9/11 and its not by luck or because the terrorist havent tried
    the CIA and FBI use wiretapping to stop terrorists and protect us you idiot
    this doesnt harm you unless your a terrorist
    so stop crying, they are trying to protect your dumb ass
     
  20. killuminati

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    wow...
    government did a good job on you, eh?
    you really think america is even threatened by terrorism?
    if america was threatened, there wouldn't be a gigantic catastrophic terrorist attack every several years, on huge scales..
    you would hear about small scale things, on an at least annual basis.ie: suicide bombings... just look at the middle east.
    you fail to put forth anything but opinion.

    and you also failed to address any of the other issues i pointed out.
    you're the one who wanted us to explain how we were losing freedom..and when i give you an example of it, you totally change the subject. as if you forgot the original point of you asking for an example.
     
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