could you tell me please an example of the einstein relativity theory?

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  1. nicolai

    nicolai Member

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    i hope to find a real example...
    they say is GPS,but how?
    in gps you multiply the speed of light or electromagnetic field of your gps oscillator(known-300.000km/s) and the time the reflected wave comes back from the nearest satellites(indicated),so you`ll get S=v*t ,and you have the earth geometric model to know approx where you are...
    in S=v*t formula you assume speed of light constant,but it`s only conventional,then S cannot be never exact calculated...
    S(variable)/t(constant-indicated)=v(must be variable...)
     
  2. etkearne

    etkearne Resident Pharmacologist

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    Go into my image basket and look at my folder about math and science. There are a few snip pits from papers I wrote about general relativity. Take a peek!
     
  3. nicolai

    nicolai Member

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    etkearne album`s
    -Mathematics and Physics-6th line?
    pls explain...
     
  4. oscar2u

    oscar2u Banned

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    First off: It is NOT Einstein`s relativity theories. It is people including: Henri Poincare, Lorentz, Maxwell, and the little known Tolver Preston who worked out those theories: RELATIVITY and SPECIAL RELATIVITY. Einstein simply restated what they had already published about and spoken about. Einstein did NOT get a Nobel Prize for those theories because he did not discover them. See here: http://www.mathpages.com/rr/s8-08/8-08.htm
     
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    relaxxx Senior Member

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpbGuuGosAY"]The Elegant Universe - Einstein's Relativity - YouTube

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvZfx7iwq94"]Space-Time And The Speed Of Light | Einstein's Relativity - YouTube
     
  6. nicolai

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    ok,thank you oscar...
    sorry,me i did not say that einstein has anything to do with GPS,the phisics `experts` say this on the internet-it`s the only thing i could find...
     
  7. nicolai

    nicolai Member

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    nice movie,relaxxx,thank you...
    but i did not good understand who goes faster,light or gravity,and why?
     
  8. relaxxx

    relaxxx Senior Member

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    Einstein theorized that gravity propagates through space at the same speed as light. Light and gravity are both ripples or waves travelling through the fabric of space-time.
     
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    nicolai Member

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    waves or field?
    substance or wave?
    both?
     
  10. relaxxx

    relaxxx Senior Member

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    Gravity is a field but changes in the field propagate like waves.
    Space is the only substance; magnetism and gravity are spatial displacements or distortions of space, energy is vibrations and wave propagations through space.

    Energy seems to run perpendicular to spatial displacement fields. Take black holes as an example, they have a disk of strong gravitational pull but 90 degrees at the poles they blast out high frequency gamma energy. Run electricity through a wire and magnetic poles appear perpendicular to that wire, coil the wire and the field is magnified - electromagnet.
     
  11. nicolai

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    so,gravity is a field but light not...why not?
    energy runs perpendicular...
    pls stay on the earth,i dont know about black or white holes or deep holes...
     
  12. relaxxx

    relaxxx Senior Member

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    Light energy has a small magnetic field but it oscillates, it's not constant because light is a vibration, a frequency. Gravity from the sun does not oscillate, it's a constant field of spatial displacement.
     
  13. nicolai

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    and earth gravity/
     
  14. sunfighter

    sunfighter Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    Why are you so anti-Einstein? You are right that he did not develop these theories by himself; he did stand on the shoulders of others -- but both of these theories are generally attributed to him. First came Special Relativity in 1905 from a paper Einstein published called "On the Electrodynamics of Moving Bodies". General Relativity came in 1916 and is strongly attributed to Einstein.

    By saying that he merely "re-stated" these ideas, you are doing him a disservice.
     
  15. oscar2u

    oscar2u Banned

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    Oh gee whiz, I just have a problem with Einstein getting credit for ALL of modern physics when all he did was restate what others had actually put together prior to him. Also the fact that he never truly knew what he was talking about. He proved he did not understand all this with his three attempts at what he called his proofs. He was not capable of coming up with the mathematical equations that actually worked. He also believed in the old solid state universe and the old aether explanation for electromagnetic waves. What exactly is it that he truly did discover or originate ?
    Also: I think his NOTION that acceleration is in any way the equivalent of gravity is nonsense. Yet, people buy into all this crap. Acceleration requires a constant increase in energy output. Gravity requires NO energy. Gravity is a force NO one has explained. There is NO energy input involved in this very real force for lack of a better word. And it is a question no one has ever answered. It simply is. Supposedly nothing can move without some source of energy according to all the great know it alls. I do not have the answer. I simply think a lot of what has been accepted as fact by most people has yet to be reconciled with what is observed as to what we call gravity. If you or anyone else can explain the force gravity, I would very much like to learn of it. Do NOT throw a bunch of non-decodable equations at me and expect me to accept the fact that I have no idea of what you are talking about as proof of anything. Like I said: Einstein tried three times over many years to come up with mathematical proofs, all of which did not work. As in he said 2x2=10 and those who worked through his nonsense said 2x2=4 and not 10. ...Oscar
     
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    Two heavy objects each in a steady orbit around the other (like a twin star or black holes). Each exerting a gravity field of its own. Both objects have positive attractive gravity; is the gravity field of one orbiting object considered anti-gravity toward the other?

    Is the influence of the moons gravity on our oceans considered the effect of anti-gravity?
     
  18. relaxxx

    relaxxx Senior Member

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    No, that's gravity VS momentum and inertia.
     
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    Sure. Imagine yourself on a train rolling a ball away from yourself at five miles per hour; from your perspective the ball is moving at a velocity of five miles per hour.

    Next, imagine someone observing the train and ball as it passes by at a velocity of one hundred miles per hour.

    What is the speed of that same ball from the perspective of the person observing the train pass by?

    So, the speed of the ball is relative to the point of observation.
     
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    Fking jewish media amiright?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30KfPtHec4s"]Einstein's Theory Of Relativity Made Easy - YouTube
     

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