Dead Spider

Discussion in 'Mind Games' started by Green, Jun 28, 2005.

  1. Green

    Green Iconoclastic

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    I saw a spider right above the doorway. It was motionless, and I thought "What should I do, if anything at all?". I decided that I didn't like spiders, so I killed it. Then I thought about why I don't like spiders. They are almost harmless, and they have never hurt me. I guess its because they are ugly, and creepy. Why did I think they were ugly though? They aren't and different from any rock or person or plant (in uglyness). I could have captured the spider and let it go outside, but then it would still be out there. Other people hate spiders, and I want favor with other people (to live a better and more happy life). Would I kill what they didn't like?
    Spiders act agianst what would be considered toleratable for humans. They eat their husbands, eat their children. They only do it to survive, but why would I understand that?
    So why is that spider you don't like any different from that person you don't like? Why would you kill that spider but not that person? There are no consequences to killing that spider, where there are many consequences for killing that person. What if your that person, the one they don't like? What would happen if the consequences for killing you became null? They would kill you, and feeling nothing, think nothing, do nothing.

    If I can't understand my mind, how can I think?
     
  2. TechnoSpider

    TechnoSpider Member

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    That...made me think.
    I guess you wouldn't want to be that person, but in a way, everyone is that person....
     
  3. StonerBill

    StonerBill Learn

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    i only kill insects if ive got my electric-bug-zapping-raquet, or if its poisonous and is threatening someone or myself.

    if it is an insect on the wall, i will leave it be.

    except flies that buzz around. thats what the raquets for ;)

    as you said, whats it done to you?

    i dont think insects look disgusting at all, i think theyre actually hte coolest looking creatures of all, and thats prolly partly why i dont kill them.

    its just so irrational to have a fear of something for the sake of its disgustingness. I used to for example hate cockroaches. but i touched on accidentally one day while stoned and it broke down the barrier and now there is no (non venomous/violent)insect or animal that i want to get away from except if its got shit on it.

    ive still not got over my adversion to excretion. I dont feel the need to either.
     
  4. TechnoSpider

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    I love spiders......I try to save 'em whenever I can. Yeah, I'm weird, I know. ^_^
     
  5. TrippinBTM

    TrippinBTM Ramblin' Man

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    I save everything. Try to let them go outside. I'll save spiders or centipedes from the shower, usually I just dump them behind (not in) the toilet. I see no point in killing them. Now, mosquitoes, that's different. They're attacking me, so slapping them is fair.

    I find all bugs incredibly ugly. I just don't see that as a reason to kill them.
     
  6. Green

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    I don't know if I could hold a spider.
     
  7. sooty_the_kat

    sooty_the_kat Senior Member

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    they are evil and must die
     
  8. Faerie

    Faerie Peachy

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    Arg... I hate spiders... Okay heres a guess....

    To most people Murder is wrong.. Unless it is self defense... Many if not most people are terrified of Spiders regardless of weather they can hurt you or not.. So mabey in some way its selfdefense killing a spider...

    Even though I hate spiders I have only killed a few when I have had to... Cause Im terrified to be anywhere near them.. I make someone else kill them for me :) So am I like a gang leader or crazy cult leader? Sending others to do my killing?
     
  9. Green

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    I want to join your cult.
     
  10. Faerie

    Faerie Peachy

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    Only if you kill for me
     
  11. vimmeroony

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    i used to kill spiders, and other buggies, because i was paranoid that they would crawl up my nose and nest in my brain while i was sleeping. But then the doctor said i have narrow nostrils so i'm not scared anymore.
     
  12. jo_k_er_man

    jo_k_er_man TBD

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    i have memorials on my ceiling from where spiders once lived
     
  13. StupidHippy

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    The way i see it is that killing spiders is very different from killing a human, even if they were both legal. Spiders aren't humans, they don't think, they don't love eachother, another spider would never miss the spider you killed, they most likely wouldn't even know what was going on.

    If you killed a human, most likely even if you didn't like him/her there would be someone who would, someone to miss them when threy're gone and to hate your guts for killing them. Plus we can understand the fear and pain it would be like to die as a human.

    Now, if the spider was someones pet, or the guy next door was deeply in love with the spider, then i think that would be wrong.

    I'm not saying it's right to kill it, i'm just stating the difference between the two.
     
  14. lostblackdog

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    I have a strong hatred for all bugs because they all crawl on the back of my neck or they get caught in my hair. I have no prejudice to what types of bugs I kill.... I kill them all... and the deader I kill them, the better I feel about it. One time I even shot a wasp in mid-flight while I was skeet shooting with some friends... lemme tell ya... a 12 gauge with buck shot will completely vaporize a wasp, as well as that son of a bitch box that was sitting behind it... I was raised in the swamp though... and down there the bugs fly around and land on your face while you sleep... not to mention that you have a serious look on your face when you tell each other "don't let the bed bugs bite!"... I guess I'm wired to kill bugs because they disturb me... but I much rather use my "Bug zapper" hammer instead of some fancy little raquet wand deal... That way I KNOW the fucker's dead!
     
  15. Green

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    So if nobody cared if a human died, it would be ok to kill them? I mean like, if nobody liked them.
     
  16. StupidHippy

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    No, because we can understand fear, we can understand what it would be like to die or to know we're going to die.

    I don't think spiders do, i don't think they understand they're being killed, especially if it's one quick smack. I'm not sure if they do or not, so correct me if i'm wrong.
     
  17. PurpleGel

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    i know bats are not spiders, but..

    i just caught a bat with a paper bag. it was flying around in circles in my room. i was high as hell. the whole thing was intense.
     
  18. rubicon

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    Being veg. I'm very against killing animals and go to great lengths to avoid eating products that have meat biproducts in them. Yet I frequently kill insects. It IS because they're ugly... there's no other explaination for why I do it. Or maybe I'm just too fucking lazy to shoo it outside. Anyways..
     
  19. rangerdanger

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    I like spiders.
    They don't "bug" me.
    If it weren't for spiders, there would be not enough food to eat (since they kill/eat insects that feed on plants).
    I saved a plastic margerine tub. When I see a spider in the house I capture it and transport it outside.
     
  20. SpliffVortex

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    Ziggy played guitar, jammin' good with Weird and Gilly,
    The spiders from Mars, he played it left hand
    But made it too far
    Became the special man, then we were Ziggy's band

    Ziggy really sang, screwed up eyes and screwed down hairdo
    Like some cat from Japan, he could lick 'em by smiling
    He could leave 'em to hang
    Came on so loaded man, well hung and snow white tan



    So where were the spiders while the fly tried th break our balls
    Just a beer light to guide us
    So we bitched about his fans and should we crush his sweet hands?

    Ziggy played for time, jiving us that we was voodoo
    The kids was just crass. He was the nazz
    With God given ass
    He took it all too far, but boy could he play guitar

    Making love with his ego, Ziggy sucked up into his mind
    Like a leper messiah
    When the kids had killed the man I had to break up the band

    Ziggy Played Guitar ​
     

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