Deepest/most cosmic 2c?

I am a 2C-virgin. But, from the experiences I have read on this board to the moderate research I have done over other medians, I have concluded (with a lot of your guys' help) that phenethylamines do not offer the insight,depth or cosmic feelings that LSD,Psilocin or other tryptamines offer.


Would any of you gals or guys say one particular 2c-x offers a deeper more cosmic experience?

Also, from reading, I think I would be mainly interested in 2c-i, 2c-t-2 and 2c-p. Which would you recommend for more of a cosmic experience out of these?





I have been wanting to ask these questions for a long time. Now that things are looking up (possibly), personally, in terms of RCs, I figured I would ask.

Much appreciated, everyone. Thanks for any help, effort, time and/or understanding.

 

I've had 1 VERY deep 2c-i experience, but the 2c-x compounds i've tried haven't been very spiritual. I'd always recommend a tryptamine [4-aco-dmt, 5-meo-dmt, and n,n dmt..in that order].. if you want a "spiritual" trip...PEA's are just BEAUTIFUL IME.

I have a personal friend who called 2c-e very "spiritual".

from what i've read, 2c-t-7 is supposed to be the most "mindblowing" but i've yet to try it.

 

It feels like there are a few of these threads already, possibly check those out. for a first trip of the 3 you mentioned 2cp might be the most 'cosmic.' I've only tried the other two, 2ct2 would probably be really 'cosmic' at high doses as I saw some glimpses of it but at a medium dose it's got a very cold and unwelcoming character to it.

I consider 2ci to be really psychedelic, others don't find it psychedelic at all. It's not the most visual but the headfuck of it to me is comparable to mushrooms at 20 + mgs, just of a different nature. Mushrooms has the more I guess grounded 'earthy' natural vibe where 2ci's is more of a emotional interpersonal artificial trip.

 

Thank you very much for the replies.



Tryptamines are what I would prefer. But, they are not apart of my options currently.


I have literally had dreams of 4-aco-dmt. haha

 

I have to try some of this 4 aco dmt myself. I don't get why people bag on the Phens though. I stopped using and looking for mushrooms because of mescaline, 2cb and 2ci.

 

I don't think I could ever stop using mushrooms. This is very encouraging, though. I feel gitty.

 

2ct7 became one of my favorite substances.
I'd say either 2ce or t7.
I never personally got much from 2cp, and I took around 20 mg.
2ci is kinda fun, but I get extremely bored with it. Think it'd be fun to combine with other substances though.

 

I said the same thing in my mid-teens.
I haven't had an actual shroom trip in a couple years now though. Lucy just became more appealing, and I took too high of a dose of shrooms a couple times when I wasn't really in the right mindset or setting. It was a brutal surprising intro to ego death.
I think L would have been better for ego death at that point in my life, but I'm glad I got my ass handed to me early on .

 

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Did you use a fair amount of 2ci in a short period of time? I've spaced my trips out and the effects and versatility of it are amazing to me. I actually stopped using mushrooms because of the getting bored feeling, every trip just started feeling the same and more of a burden then enjoyable or spiritual.

 

Yes, I did, but it was always a little bland and boring to me.
The first time I took it I took around 35 mg. Then decided I wanted to trip all weekend pretty much (which some of you may find stupid or "abuse", but whatever), and dosed 3 days in a row. All being close to 40 mg.
Then waited a week and dosed at 40 again. I haven't noticed much in the way of tolerance surprisingly, but am really only interested in combos at this point.

And yeah, unfortunately t7 is on that damn gov. list here in the states.
If you ever do go for it I promise it's worth it. Just start low, and work your way up. At high doses it gave me what were quite possibly the most beautiful visuals any substance has ever given me. There was a pretty decent body high there as well. Much more so than with other 2cs I've tried. Like insane euphoria.
Only downside (other than the dangers involved with high doses) is that the come up always had intense nausea for me. I never actually got sick on it though, and after about an hour to an hour and a half the nausea just goes away (unlike when I got it on 2cp, shit went for the whole 16 hours, but wasn't as bad as with t7)

 

^^^bummer, you were nauseous on 2cp the whole time?

i've only had 2ce and 2cb (only twice for that one)
i've had "cosmic" experiences on 2ce for sure, but i might be in the minority.

 

Yeah 2cp didn't agree with me. Whenever I got nausea it was there the whole trip. There was one trip I had on it that was completely fine in terms of nausea, but the trip wasn't really what I consider a trip to be. I just felt really fucking high. Colors were definitely more vibrant and all, but it was seriously lacking.

 

Yeah man, I have taken 2c-p over 20 times, each around 14mg or above, 23mg being the highest, and i have only really had a good old psychedelic experience around 3 times. The other trips would feel empty for periods of time and i would realize "hey, i would be enjoying this moment much more if i were simply sober or a little blazed" due to body load, and just the overall feeling it gave me.

When 2c-p was all big and being hyped for a while, i got psyched for it, and expected it to be mind blowing.. but even at 23mg i didnt have many nice visuals or insights. in fact, my best experience with 2c-p was when i was drunk and took 14mg with a friend of mine who had never tripped..i could see my computers visualizer all over my ceiling and walls. set and setting i suppose. if i were offered it, i would take it. its not terrible, but its not the best at times either, but hey, thats just me..

 

^^^do you like (or trip from) 2ce or other 2cxs?

 

Well, i have never taken any other RCs yet, but i'm waiting for a reply from a source so i can order some 4-aco-dmt. i hope he replies soon...

most of the 2c-p was taken with my gf who complained the majority of each trip.. that could be major factor in the forming of my opinion, though we did share some wonderful experiences and bond on new levels on occasion, which was great.

i have about 2 doses left and plan on using them wisely while getting the most out of the chem.. so i probably won't be taking them with her lol.

 

Psychedelic black holes were a thing for me on heavy doses of 2C-E. I'd consider that fairly cosmic. Can't speak for 2C-P, or 2C-T-2. I personally wouldn't try them due to their overdose sensitivity. I believe (from what I've read and seen on message boards) the 2c-T-* series can be fatal in high doses, and 2C-P can offer a wide variety of problems if taken past recommended dose as well.

 

I was afraid to take the so called limit of the 16mg 2c-p dose at first, but then i was fine, and moved up to 23 without any negative side effects different from the norm. overall i enjoy a dose of around 14mg the most, seeing as the 23mg did little to increase the psychedelia

 

Damn 23mg is pretty impressive. I believe some kid posted here about how he had a seizure off about 17mg or so, not sure how much but I don't believe it was over 17-20mg. But then again there is no saying what else he was on, any brain deficits, etc.

 

Yeah, i think it was candykid. He's been gone for a while now since that stream of 2c-p reports.