Define "Pornography"

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  1. Bocks

    Bocks Senior Member

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    Is there such thing as quality pornography? It has a horrible reputation, but there must be some pornography that is high class and well-written. If there is, does anyone know of it?
     
  2. Kabbalist

    Kabbalist Member

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    There are even pornography awards, best anal shot and stuff like that.

    Must be based on something I suppose... ;)
     
  3. Green

    Green Iconoclastic

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    I suppose. Everybody tends to like different things, so you would have to select judges with similiar tastes and you could only judge one kind of pornography. It is futile to compare different kinds of pornography.
     
  4. anything that provokes sexual thought and has no artistic value

    some supreme court defined it that way.....

    hope that helps (I think it just includes 99% of commercials)
     
  5. Bocks

    Bocks Senior Member

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    So is there any kind of porn that DOES have artistic value?
     
  6. Hippievixen

    Hippievixen Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    I've written some erotic literature... it is explicit, but I don't think it is smutty. Ya'll decide for yourselves...

    http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=885528&postcount=17

    I posted it in the 'Real Kinky' forum a while back instead of this one, because I was afraid that I might offend someone :)

    I like to think that it has some artistic value, but maybe I'm just a perv.

    *gigggggles*
     
  7. IronGoth

    IronGoth Newbie

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    RE: anything that provokes sexual thought and has no artistic value

    some supreme court defined it that way.....

    Requisite Bill Hicks comment...

    "Sounds like every piece of advertising I've ever seen..."
     
  8. james q

    james q Uranian

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    in theory there ought to be quality porn, but where is it? it's like quality porn videos. these hardly exist either. jean pual cardinot made some decent gay porn in the eighties, but other than that...?
     
  9. White Scorpion

    White Scorpion 4umotographer

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    It doesn't just have artistic value, it positively oozes with it. Sultry erotica. Yummy!!!
     
  10. prankster1590

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    French art movies are dramatic movis with real sex. Don't know if you can call it porn.

    But Blake Baxter movies are porn but made in some dreamy style
     
  11. veinglory

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    Pornography is writing meant to cause sexual arousal. WHat do you mean by quality. It can have the quality of being very arousing, which is great. It can have a quality of also including an entertaining plot (adventure, thriller etc)--it can even have the quality of being artistically beautiful. Porn with plot or beauty is generally called erotic to distinguish it from simple 'stroke' books.
     
  12. canadian_boy

    canadian_boy Brohn Zmith

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    Well i guess it depends of the tastes of the people who is watching it . But you know the real-written does not mean anything at all for me because porn is only the provoke sexual arrousal ... They don't care if there is a story behind the anal shots and all that shit...
     
  13. veinglory

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    That depends on the 'they'. You can probably assume we are talking fiction here not material to 'watch'. When it comes to erotic/pornographic fiction I am one of the 'they' that certainly does care.
     
  14. DuskBreeze

    DuskBreeze bye bye !

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    I have read some good novels, described as 'erotic' because as well as an interesting story, there is explicitly described sex. Other novels I have read described as 'erotic' have been nothing more than badly disguised porn with hardly any plot lines at all. But its not easy to tell before you start to read. They can be a good turn on sometimes ;)
     
  15. rubicon

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    Maybe if they did it more subtly with black and white photography....Magazines with pics of nude people in surreal settings, no pryed open orifices or suggestive gestures. I suppose this is more what is termed Erotica though
     
  16. wonderboy19

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    "Perhaps it took an addiction to pornography to understand what pornography is and isn’t. Surprisingly, it isn’t really about sex. Pornography is a psychological orientation to existence. It is the precise moment in one’s mind when the commodification of a human life outweighs the importance of the potential creativity of that life."

    -Max Gordon, Abu Ghraib: Postcard From the Edge
     
  17. veinglory

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    This is the writers' forum--it would be safe to assume we are talking about *prose*.
     
  18. Flight From Ashiya

    Flight From Ashiya Senior Member

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    D.H. Lawrence wrote 'erotic literature'.

    As did Barbara Cartland.
    (Oh o.k....... I'm fibbing about Barbara Cartland:rolleyes: ).
     
  19. get_up_kid

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    4. pornography
    Graphic depiction that has no artistic merit and that leads to sexual thought.
    Which is basically every commercial I have ever seen...
    Source: Crapper McGee, Mar 27, 2004


     
  20. god bless you, and god bless bill hicks, and the cloud of moths that follow him everywhere....
     

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