depression...

ok, well lately ive been really depressed about stuff..im not really gunna name it unless i have to, but anyway, i just startred getting really depressed since about last week and i ran outa bud last wednsday..so im wondering if this depression is sorta like withdrawl side effects or something.

 

Maybe you're addicted.

 

i allready know im addicted, i just was wondering if my depression was a cause of the addiction or whatever.

but i am trying to cut down on smoking, i am deffinatly trying to cut down to like a bowl a day and probably less.

 

wow everyones addicted according to you...

it could be any # of things, you know better than any of us do, just start being honest with yourself, when you smoke do you forget about certain things unconciously? what is the depression like, why exactly do you feel down?

 

well....its mainly because i feel really lonely...like, i dont talk to anyone when im at home and i have no friends at school and im allways alone at school and dont talk to anyone, thats the main reason why im depressed, but i also am really shy and dont talk much anyway to people...and i dont know if like anit-socialness is like something that just happens to pot heads or something. but any sorta advice is apreciated.

 

no, its not something that happens to all potheads, but it definatley can happen. dont have anybody you can toke with, your dealer, other friends??? i find we get better as we go with social experience, so the longer you stay shy, idle, and alone, the worse your shyness will actually become, so the sooner you begin to open up and talk to those around you, the better off you will probably be, even if you have to start with an adult, or counselor, work on those people skills, theyll get you a lot of things in life , and more things the better you get at it, like all things we get better with practice...

dont you need somebody to loveeeee

 

the only person i blaze with lives 50 mins away and i havent seen him since the beggining of july. but i blazed once with my dealer i might be blazing with him again next week probably. but i deffinatly am trying to work on my people skills. and another problem i have is because im allways alone at school kids think im weird or have like mental problems so that makes them not like me even more but im still gunna try. thanks for the advice.

 

man i dont know what to tell you, god helps those who help themselves, anything i tell you is pointless without you actually acting on it, open up man, be social, even if you make a fool out of yourself at first, nothing lasts, chances are you will not see these people later on in your life, and you will see other people who have no clue about your weird past.. and who knows man, maybe the people will like you once you open up, good luck man....

 

If you do decide to see a professional, whatever you do, don't take their pills!!! That shit is evil. Antidepressants are the devil. They will either make things worse, or they will reduce you to a hollow soulless shell. I've seen this happen to people I know. They start taking that shit and it's like someone sucked the life right out of them.

Have you thought about trying to sober up for a while? Then at least you would know how much of it is the weed.

 

Yeah, Marijuana (or any narcotic for that matter) has been known to bring up past issues. If you've always been anti-social, then I'd say that the Marijuana obviously can't be to blame. There are several different variables from life to life. I smoke, and I have a lot of friends, and am not shy at all. It just depends on the person. I used to have bad social anxiety, though. You can push yourself until you've gotten over it, you really can. No one is any better than you are, and it's not like they're going to murder you if you speak. The worst that is going to happen is that they might make fun of what you have to say, in which case you give them the big "futcha" and move on to better people. You're not going to live forever, and man, you've got bigger fish to fry ! There has been said to be psychological withdrawal from not smoking Marijuana, but physically it's pretty much impossible to be addicted (as far as scientists have found with the V.T.A and reward system, and yeah, I won't go down there here). You admitted that you're addicted, which is a good first step. I agree with Kilgore. Be sober for a while, and if you're still depressed in a month, go see a psychologist (not a psychiatrist) because at that point it's obviously not the Marijuana.

A psychiatrist, because he's a physician with a clipboard, will simply prescribe you drugs and that will be that. Most Americans don't even verse themselves on any pharmacology (which makes sense, why would they?). If you had, you'd realize that Paroxotine (chemical in Paxil and many other anti-depressants) is a selective Seratonine reuptake inhibitor - that is, it inhibits the excessive flow of the neurotransmission chemical Seratonine (which is the main reason for depression) to rectify the imbalance. What no one tells you, especially Eli Lilly and Glaxosmithkleine, is the when the seratonine breaks up in the synapse, you get an even larger armount of Seratonine release. This is why the pharmaceutical companies are now facing law-suits because people are killing themselves while on it, or dropping into extreme psychosis and going insane. Marijuana is a "demon" drug, and yet all of us can shovel any other drug into our mouth as long as the dealer is Eli Lilly, Glaxosmithkleine and Pfizer. Do not allow those people to tell you these are harmless drugs, do not allow them to shove these drugs into your mouth.

 

Ya bro I agree.. I also have some sort of anxiety disorder and I was perscribed lexapro which didn't really help. I just had to make myself go out and party and make new friends.. Best wait to defeat depression is to keep busy, start a new hobby/sport! We are here for ya bro.

 

I find breaking fomr marijuana makes me sad. but im social and stuff, and have heaps of people to talk to. I would like a relationship atm tho, thats one of the thigns that gets me down. weed someteims fills that gap, but when tehres no weed, I need people I care about to get me high in that wierd sorta way.


But i msut say, I dont find much sympathy for people who are jsut antisocial and shy, simply because Ive never seen justification behind it, and am such a social person myself

 

im deffinatly going to try and start talking to people more and stuff...and im in a sport called footbag, which at the moment i suck but im getting better slowly and there are competitions that i can go to and meet people at which i plan to do in febuary (theres one in philly) im going to try and stay sober more often now and see if that helps any...but for some reason lately ive been feeling sorta outa touch with everything, like being sober even feels weird..i dont know...maybe its just going out of my system or something. thanks for the adivce tho, im deffinatly going to try and talk to me people and be more social.

 

footbag rules! There's a guy from my hometown that placed real high at the last nationals. he practices right in the middle of our "uptown" park. Absolutely incredible to watch!

I'm not so bad myself, but I'm kind of limited ever since my knee went to shit.

 

My friend suffered from depression while smoking weed, thats why he stopped completely.

 

Yeah I definately got depressed when I stopped smoking bud. I got panic attacks aswell - a possible withdrawel effect. I just thought I was going mad and one day I just thought fuck this i'm not gonna feel like shit anymore and within a day or two it stopped.

 

Hmm, sounds like me back in the day. I was anti-social to the max. I was homeschooled 6th-8th grade and I probly left my house once a month for my braces appointment.. which I dreadded doing. Then I went to 9th grade with pretty much no friends and over time I went from quiet, sedated and an everquest junkie to class fuckin clown/smartass with plenty of friends. The key is to make friends.. usualy in something like a school club or sport.. I used football/wrestling/track and just took advantage of things like partys or ask people if they want to do something. Find peoples intrests and connect with them.

 

your not addicted to weed. i don't think you'll find one bit of evidence anywhere that its addictive. sure you want it, but its not an addiction, you can go without. if you smoke with tobacco ( althoughi don't think you americans do ) thats addictive, but the buds not

if you smoke a lot and then stop, you do have kinda whithdrawl symtoms - i'm having them now hence why i can't sleep and i'm on here at this time of the morning! but they soon go

depression can be a strange thing, some people find weed can help with it, others find it brings it on or makes it worse. why not take a break, concentrate on getting out more at school and stuff and making some mates and see how things go without the bud for a while. your only 16, still plenty of smoking time left!

good luck man

 

may i be so bold as to suggest cutting back on the weed, some people are simply much happier without it...

 

I disagree. No, marijuana isn't addictive in a physical way, but one can be addicted to anything. With something like marijuana, most people can smoke however often they feel like smoking and then that will be the end of it. For some though, with addictive personalities, its much harder than that. I think it is probably comparable to Gambling. I know people that visit the track from time to time, not to make money, but for the thrill of betting. Most people visit a casino at some point in their lives. Obviously, nobody comes to depend on Gambling physically. A few of these people though, become addicted to it to the point of gambling compulsively. They can't help themselves. The same thing can happen to marijuana users. When your existence revolves around marijuana, and you feel like you need it to be yourself, I think its safe to say you have an addiction.

Aaanyway, yeah there have been times in my life when I've experienced that kind of social anxiety. It is a very hard shell to break through. I found that while I was in an anti-social phase, I had to think hard about things to say. Nothing would just 'come to me'. As I got used to conveying thoughts to other people, carrying on conversations became a lot easier. I no longer had to struggle to find things to say. A couple of years ago I dreaded being around people, but now I find meeting new people to be one of life's greatest pleasures!

Maybe you can try certain conversation tricks. When you have a conversation with somebody, get them talking about themselves. And then when they say something you can relate to, you can talk to them about your own experiences. Find somebody that you can relate to well, and through them you will probably meet other people you can relate to! Don't be too worried about rejection in this sense. You will find people are generally good natured.

And finally, while its probably unhealthy to depend on it, a marijuana session can be a great bonding experience, and a great social gateway.

We all need to give love and receive it. Good luck getting over that barrier. We're here for you.