Deprogramming Christians

so much for freedom and tolerance then

 

Skip, not all christians are the ignorant fucks you make them out to be. Some of us are actually objective about the shit. Instead of "deprogramming" christians, maybe it would be better to find a way to teach the sheepishly ignorant ones to think for themselves and actually question the religion, as opposed to following it blindly. All christians need to recognize the possibility that we may have been lied to or mislead by a bible that has been altered and changed by people over the centuries and that God may not be the loving creator he is made out to be, and that he may actually be just a voyeur who is watching us for his own enjoyment and entertainment, which is what I believe.

I mean, the bible was written by men, not God, and there is no possible way that it hasn't been changed or even just mistranslated over the years, even if it was just a little bit. So I think the problem with most christians is that they are afraid to think for themselves, because they fear God, when they need to fear ignorance.

 

Yeah maybe you're right. I think I just don't like the way you explain it. It makes it sound like you think you have all the answers and that you know what is best for everyone, when all that needs to happen is that people need to learn to think for themselves; not that they need to be "deprogrammed" and unlearn or stop believing what they have been taught or lead to believe. They just need to take what they have always been told and think about it objectively. In other words, question the belief structure you have and truly think about it, for a change, instead of just believing it because you are told to. Nobody needs to change their belief structure unless they come to the realization, for themselves, that they don't truly believe that they thought they believed. I hope I worded that right. I know it sounds similar to what you posted, because it is, with a few dissagreements, on my part.

 

Whatever to live and let live so much for that i guess

who are the actual intolerant ones??

 

This deprogramming sounds like another programming. If whoever wrote the article in the first post wants to deprogram christians, he has to first deprogram himself. If someone does not like christians because they are intolerant, isn't it also true to say that the very someone also should hate himself for being intolerant?
Real tolerance is not an ideal followed by those who are intolerant, fools.

 

The problem lies at the heart of the actual religion itself: Some people like being sheep.

 

No I am saying be tolerant of the tolerant. But yes in a way it would make you "better" then them.


Oh I guess its because your so enlightened! Your way of thinking is RIGHT screw everyone elses opinon!

lose your ignorance

 

So are you saying that we should also tolerate rapists and paedophiles and tyrants.

 

And Islam too.

 

The answer : LSD

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Though I dont wish to change anyone. I accept anyone for who they are, and the only form of change I would impose would be through means of revolution, and only if it comes down to that, which it probably will actually. I'll just have to saw open the roof of my car and mount a turret machine gun. The city is your greatest resource. Over and out.

 

Christians are FAR from being tolerant. Take even YOU for example. You do NOTHING but belittle EVERYTHING I post. You make absolutely NO intelligent rebuttal at all and have broken numerous forum guidelines.

I am atheist,





This is a great example of why Christians NEED, DESPERATELY NEED to be deprogrammed. They NEED our help and I feel it is my divine right to show them that they are lost.

Please oh enlightned one show every Christian the way!

Not only do they NEED deprogramming, like most cult members do, they need intense EXIT COUNSELING to help them overcome their religious indoctrination and feelings of extreme guilt and fear. They DESPERATELY need professional help.

Sounds pretty intolerant to me that they need forced brainwashing

 

A rapist is some one who rapes other people. If he rapes some one , then to protect others , he has to be locked away, but you wouldn't kill him.

Tyrant is the same. Christian is not hurting anyone physically, why would you want to not tolerate them?

We have bigger problems in the society today, lets stop rapists and murderers, not harmless christians.

 

Well, a few christian friends of mine said that they became alright due to medication and therapy which took a few years.

It is there in the GENERAL RELIGION forum in the agnostics forum , if you wish to check.

The name of the thread is 'Psychosis and religion'.

 

Unfortunately one committed suicide. He was shunned as demonized by the priests straight from the platform. On Post mortem he was diagnosed with classic paranoid skitzophrenia.


http://www.agnosticforums.com/general-religion/583-psychosis-religion.html

 

Perhaps it will be a good idea for you to contact Mister_Lister, who created that thread "Psychosis and religion." in the agnostic forum.

 

fairly stupid point really. hitler was in the army, so he hurt people. rape hurts little boys etc
and also there is violence in any group of society, so you'd have to deprogram them