do you consider non-fertilized eggs to be vegetable or meat?

i've noticed that some vegetarians consider them a vegetable and eat them while others consider them to be meat and don't... the eggs are from freedom-range chickens which means they have their freedom and so there isn't any cruelty

so what do you think they are?

 

vegetarians/vegans can only drink decalf coffee

 

Eggs are eggs, man.

They aren't made of flesh, whether it's animal flesh or vegetable flesh.

I'm a vegan, and I don't eat eggs for two reasons:

(1) It's bad for your health; eggs cause high cholesterol, among other things.

(2) Eggs are an animal byproduct which animals are tortured in order to get.

Hope this answers your question well enough.

I drink caffeinated coffee all the time. Caffeine is naturally found in coffee beans. Hence caf/de-caf instead of caf-added/no-caf.

Edit:

Hahahah ... I get it now. Decalf isn't a misspelling. Clever.

 

even if the chickens get a wonderful "free" life and get treated kindly (which is rare)....taking their eggs is stealing their young. i think that in itself is cruelty.

 

Why do you say vegetarians/ vegans can't drink coffee??
Is there a an animal that lays coffee beans?
I'm just kidding, i'm not trying to de mean or anything...
I'm vegan and I drink coffee with soy milk,(I work at a coffee shop so I'm around it all the time) I've never heard of vegans only drinking decaf.

And about the eggs... I stopped the eggs when I stopped the meat.
Even if they're not fertilized the chickens aren't treated very nicely... even the ones that are certified with that no cruelty lable... I've seen the videos... not a nice thing to see.

So I guess it all depends on your reason for being vegan... If you do it for animals I say NO EGGS... If it's for health I guess its not THAT bad in moderation.

 

Well they can't be vegetables... 'cause they don't grow out of the ground. So they must be animal.

I don't usually think of foods quite that way though. There's your protein foods... that could be meat or eggs, or nuts or beans... it's in all sorts of foods. And even with fruits & veggies it can be hard to classify a food. What's a tomato? Not a fruit, and not a veggie... technically, it's a berry. But do I care? Nope, I just eat 'em & call them tomatoes
love,
mom

 

vegetable - (says dictionary.com)
1. A plant cultivated for an edible part, such as the root of the beet, the leaf of spinach, or the flower buds of broccoli or cauliflower.
2. The edible part of such a plant.
3. A member of the vegetable kingdom; a plant.

I have no idea where those 'vegetarians' get the idea that eggs are a plant....

I think of eggs as uteruses

 

there is no torture to get eggs from a hen... hens lay the eggs in the henhouse and then go outside and walk around

i do respect your opinion that you find it objectionable that these sentient beings live a life in servitude to human needs

 

i set up the premise as the rare... its the given

the eggs are unfertilized and so there is no young

and too, if you are familar with chickens, their matriarchal instincts have been bread out of them... which in itself may have been cruel

 

there is calf in coffee but decalf is veggie kosher

the given is these chickens are treated nicely

let's suppose you rescued them yourself from a facility that was shut down due to inhumane conditions and you accepted to care for these chickens as do many animal friendly groups such as Woodstock Farm Animal Sanctuary
http://www.woodstockfas.org/

and part of the care given to these chickens is that you now have eggs

true, eggs are not as bad as the rap they have been given and freedom-range eggs have been found to be much much healthier

 

eggs are a high source of protien. they are in the food guide as meat and alternatives.
eggs being an alternative.

 

true, that's one way of looking at it but some people say "what came first, the chicken or the egg?" and so if your answer is the egg, then the egg came from the ground and not from another chicken and so looking at it in this way, we could say that the egg is a vegetable

true, i knew the tomato is not a vegetable but except for the beefsteak tomato, its still ok for vegetarians to eat tomatoes

 

check comments on "what came first, the chicken or the egg?"

uteruses are an actual physical attachment to the body whereas eggs are layed

 

soy is also a meat alternative

soy = egg???

 

i realize the eggs are unfertilized.

the eggs are still THEIRS and thus taking them is stealing.

 

Personally, if one were to raise their own chickens I don't see the problem. But I'm not really a vegetarian for the animals either... not that I don't care, but this choice was made primarily for my own health which means things like eggs & honey are still kind of nebulous for me.

Unfertilized eggs rot. They can't ever do or be anything else. Drumminmama suggested in a different post that eggs are a chicken's menses... and technically while that's the nastiest thing I've heard in quite awhile, she's right. All a female human is doing is shedding an unfertilized egg too... kinda makes me not want to eat eggs anymore

Oh... and yeah, soy could = egg! The tofu I've tried really really reminds me of scrambled eggs.
love,
mom

 

you asked if we thought they were vegetables or meat. I don't care about stupid sayings, they are in no way vegetables. I realize what uteruses are, I was simply answereing your question

 

Unfertilized eggs are chicken periods. Chicken periods that people eat. I do not eat them because of the cruelty that is tied in with (most of) them. I do not see anything ethically wrong with eating the egg of a chicken you had as a "pet" and were not going to harm after she is no longer "useful" but this is not the case with chickens in the industry.

Unfertilized eggs are not flesh. Vegetarians do not eat dead animal flesh. This includes fish. But vegetarians can by definition eat eggs because the actual egg was not killed to make the product (unless it was fertilized, then you have the abortion debate, which I shall not get into on this thread). I would suggest....getting a local farmer egg or buying one that says "cage free" (NOT "Animal Care Certified" or "Free Range" as these have little to no standards). I am not even sure about the "cage free" standard, and avoid eggs altogether because they are an animal product.

If you are lookng for eggs for breakfast, there are a lot of tofu recipes. If you are baking, there are many substitutes.

 

and the chicken feed is mine so i think the chickens like to trade