How about some conversation about doctors of psychedelics. Why aren't they dosed? How do they interact with other medications? How dangerous can psychedelics be? Why don't we have doctors regulating the use of psychedelics?
Good question. It's called schedule one. Or schedule A in the UK. Maybe some reading is in order. http://www.psychedelic-library.org/ Then, ask your gov't why there are no doctors of psychedelics.
When psychedelics were legal, they were used in psychotherapy sessions. Look up Stan Grof for more on that. Look up MAPS for info on modern psychedelic psychotherapy, particularly with MDMA for PTSD and psilocybin for death anxiety. I don't remember if there are any legal LSD psychotherapy sessions going on right now, but there is a network of underground psychedelic psychotherapists somewhere.
Nowadays if you ever talk about therapeutic use of hallucinogens, you get a funny look, or get called crazy. It's all underground now, as no gvt agency or doctor want to support it. I know in my city there's a few shamans using LSD, mushrooms and ayahuasca as a cure for anxiety, obsessions, addictions, etc. They exist, just need to find them, which can be quite complicated for someone with little or no contacts.
I know that mdma is making a comeback in the medicinal research world. They're doing a couple of studies in the US right now on the effects of mdma and post-traumatic stress disorder. MDMA was created as a thereupetic tool, however. I don't know if naturally occuring psychdelics or psychedelics created for recreational use will ever get the same attention.
I know some researchers have been interested a while ago in iboga, once again as a cure for addictions (alcohol and cocaine mostly). I couldn't tell if that's still the case now though.
MDMA certainly was used in therapy, but it wasn't synthesized specifically for that purpose at all. LSD was used in therapy as well but just like MDMA it turned recreational, for the most part. So, there's a possibility of other drugs being used. There's been a lot of news coverage on psilocybin mushrooms being used on advanced-stage cancer patients, as well as treatment for migraine/cluster headaches. On TV, even. No synthetic psychedelics were created with recreational use in mind. Alexander Shulgin certainly views his creations as spiritual tools, and it's widely known Hoffman stumbled upon LSD, later adopting a view similar to Shulgin's.
john hopkins has been doing therapy with psychedelics. i know someone who signed up with a quit smoking with mushrooms study and it worked... but she got a lot more than she bargained for
i wonder how safe mescaline is most of the others i know are dangerous and probably shouldn't be toyed around with
Prescription drugs are sold to make money. Thus, most of them are supposed to be taken daily. I never heard of a normal human being who planned on taking LSD or Mescaline every day. Thus, they are not brought to the attention of doctors. The obvious use for them would be as an occasional aid in psychotherapy, but even then, due to liability issues, it would have to be done in an almost inpatient setting, which you can decide if that is a good or bad thing!
Lol wtf are you talking about? I'm saying it would be awesome to have doctors perfect a mescaline dose that doesn't include the nausea that comes as a side-effect
you can't take the nausea out of mescaline, it's just how our human bodies react with the compound. the only thing you can do is take additional chemicals that combat nausea, like dimenhydrinate and THC.
That's what mescaline does. There are a lot of drugs, including ones with similar modes of action, that have less nausea. But even so, it's possible with psychedelics, because of the stress they cause, by their very nature. So, what I'm talking about is you being stupid. Doctors don't need to perfect anything, they have (largely) turned their backs on psychedelics, and have no business walking back in and telling me what to take or how to take it. You can perfect your own dose with a scale and the brains to read and follow a simple online how-to. You talking about mescaline and it's side effects, while asking such basic and stupid questions as "are they dangerous", reads like a cop or someone who was assigned to fish for info on opinions of club/designer/psychedelic drugs (the better to bust their users), looked up one side effect of one classic, and then coupled it with a bunch of generic questions (and statements designed to provoke some sort of answer) that might be nice to have answers to in his powerpoint presentation for his LEO class or whatever. I'm having fun with run-on sentences today.
