Drugs are bad?

Discussion in 'Psychedelics' started by Ganjabeliever, Mar 22, 2010.

  1. Ganjabeliever

    Ganjabeliever Advanced Knowledge

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    What drugs are actually harmful to your body other than methamphetamine?
    People always say drugs are bad for you, drugs will kill you, etc...
    So what IS actually bad for you?
     
  2. MrDot

    MrDot Senior Member

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    A lot of OTC stuff, a lot of shit any doc would prescribe you etc etc... Most drugs can be bad for you.
     
  3. TopNotchStoner

    TopNotchStoner Georgia Homegrown

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  4. TipsyGypsy

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    All drugs are bad. Bad, bad, bad. Stick to water and fruit and go to church.

    Or, just don't don't mix those you shouldn't and have fun.... like me! (well apart from me always mixing what I shouldn't).
     
  5. My names Cory

    My names Cory Senior Member

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    Too much of any drug can be bad..for the most part.
     
  6. Ganjabeliever

    Ganjabeliever Advanced Knowledge

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    I guess air duster is pretty fuckin bad for you.
     
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  8. Codmouse

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    How fun is it?

    meth>mdma>coke>caffeine>nicotine>sobriety

    how bad is it for you?

    meth<mdma<coke<caffeine<nicotine<sobriety



    Weird, huh?
     
  9. MissEmma

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    Is caffeine really worse for you than nicotine?
     
  10. guerillabedlam

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    Is mdma really worse than cocaine?
     
  11. The Real Peter Parker

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    I would say yes. I've seen some people go pretty retarded from rolling... with coke you just quit doing it after a while.
     
  12. Codmouse

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    They are both neurotoxic drugs when used in the manner that we like. More "changes" are seen with MDMA in the brain. But one of the key things about how bad a drug can be for you is the fact that we know it is neurotoxic plus its half life.

    Cocaine has a one hour half life, Here Its main metabolite is Benzoylecgonine, a metabolite similar to metabolites of other OTC drugs. Well studied and know that the metabolite of this one isn't that bad.

    MDMA has a Half life of 6-10 hours with 9 being an average. 7% of that is converted to MDA, which is also neurotoxic and has a half life about the same length. This isn't including the other 2-3 amphetamine like metabolites that we don't know much about.

    So to sum up, MDMA = 20+ hours off of a single dose of known baddies ;) and cocaine is 1+ hour.

    And about the nicotine vs caffeine, nicotine is worse for you, but I was just typing fast :/ :p
     
  13. Codmouse

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    I forgot to say to the OP, most opiates are not bad for your body. Save the constipation that can mess up your tract. Little neurotoxicity there, just watch out for the needles and wicked addiction. (The picture says its the most harmful, but that just how many people died from it. It is mainly used by injection. Hence the harm it caused. Easy OD, disease, infection and such)
     
  14. pSYnE0

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    Actually cocaine isn't neurotoxic, there are no scientific evidences for that, its cardiotoxic tho'.
     
  15. guerillabedlam

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    More cocaine users are bound to be daily or weekly abusers than mdma users. There are obviously some freak MDMA users who abuse it alot but that's rare. Hospital visits and overdoses are far more common with cocaine than MDMA. ( from the data i've come across)

    While this is a bit of a generalizations most users of MDMA will only take a few pills or capsules, as where even fairly inexperienced cocaine users constantly redose throughout the night. Cocaine can also cause pretty bad nasal damage.
     
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    Cocaine from anywhere other than a direct pharmacy isnt all Pure Cocaine..
    none these here drugs are safe to consume considering they come from dirty clandestine labs..
     
  17. Codmouse

    Codmouse Senior Member

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    True dat! xD
     
  18. EnergyofInfinity

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    Their are so many variables in "how drugs can be bad for you." First and foremost the individual taking the drugs should be considered. Then the drug their taking and how much and also the purity of the drug.

    All drugs can be harmful to your body and mentality, thus all drugs can be "abused."
    It's funny though, as I write this I still can't deny the fact that this is only "my" opinion.
    I have found my balance with the drugs that I do and I do not feel harmed by them (Although I am now growing my own tobacco and not consuming conventional tobacco anymore, this is where I felt the most harm come from).

    So I guess the point that I wanted to make is - Only you can judge if your being harmed. Ask yourself and pay attention to what you feel, thats where the answer lies.
     
  19. MissEmma

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    haha and ask your friends. because a person cannot always tell when they are becoming stupider. But their friends can see it... Besides, lots of people go into denial about the effects of their drug use. But if you have good friends, they will call you out on your shit.
     
  20. spexxx

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    Oh yes they are quite benign little things in large proportions
     

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