Environmentalists are annoying

They act as if the Earth is threatened by us. We're the ones who are fucked, the planet will be fine.

 

We destroy the planet.
We can't live on it if its not taken care of.

When we use CFCs and destroy the ozone layer what do you think that does?
It protects us.. talk about something that you atleast know a little about.

 

Like I said, the planet is fine, we're fucked. The Earth will eventually work out the kinks that we've thrown into its system. The human species though? We'll probably bicker about non-sensical shit until we run out of oil and realize that while we were trying to protect our profits we somehow forgot to think about the future.

 

Did you ever think maybe that's part of the reason environmentalist care so much? If we really take too much and harm the earth enough WE (the human race) will die a slow and painful death. Sure the earth may work itself out but not until the trees (all vegetation really) and animals and everything else die out as well. Humans aren't the only life that environmentalist care about you dick. Your only thinking about the bottom line, shut up. Please.

Your annoying.

 

Well if we take care of what keeps us alive and protects us then we will be ok.
Like instead of using all the power plants switch too using solared power things and natural things..

Humans are stupid and they dont know what they are doing.
Like with the sharks they are going to try to put nets to keep the sharks out of where we swim but thats going to fail because if a shark wants to get past a net bad enough then it will.. especially a huge one like a shark thats 20 ft or something. Also that idea is bad because it will kill other animals like turtles and fish. They cant make one that will be big enough for them to go through it and keep a shark out at the same time.. all they gotta do is stop all the fishing.....


Its all about commen sense things can be better people just dont know what they are doing.

 

@Peace: All environmentalists care about is that they will be inconvenienced in the future. That's all. It's such a feigned feeling of caring for the Earth. If we truly cared about the Earth we would off ourselves. Before we learn to care for the Earth we need to learn to care for ourselves buddy. We still suck at that.

You know how often I see people with "environmentally friendly" clothes on and they are driving a car while istening to their I-Pod? Just another hypocritical way to make someone feel better about themselves without actually doing anything.


@toes: Pretty much sums it up.

 

You dont understand.
We all pollute the earth someway.
If we were going to completly live with not polluting the earth we would be living in teepees and cooking our food with fires and there would be no homes, electricity, nothing.
And thats not the way things are.

Im environmentally friendly with environmentally friendly things.
I buy as much natural stuff as possible cause every little thing helps.

Environmentalists arent jsut trying to feel better about themselves.. they are trying to help.
I guess the ones that arent true environmentalists do that but not all of them.

 

Don't get me wrong, it's a good notion to do what you can to help out. Unfortunately though, it really doesn't matter. Us, as civilians have been burdened with the guilt of fucking up the environment when really it's not us at all, we just enable the pollution with our money.

I believe y'all have the wrong impression of what I'm trying to convey here. I am personally someone who wishes that we will tune down our rampant pollution so that my species can continue to live. However, we are fucked. It's as simple as that.

The Earth has been around for ~4.5 billion years. 4,500,000,000 years compared to 200 years of heavy industry? Do we honestly think that besides our pollution killing some trees and animals that the Earth is worried about us at all? In the grand scheme of things, pandas don't matter, polar bears don't matter, cute fuzzy things that people blindly try to save don't matter, WE don't matter.

 

You dont understand.
The polar bears and stuff does matter.
Its what creates the earth.

We arent going to die from environmental problems i think its going to be like some asteroid hitting the planet or something and like wipe us all out... but we should take care of it cause its what keeps us here.

 

Polar bears and stuff do not create the Earth, the Earth created us.

There are plenty of ways that we could go extinct. I honestly think we will run out of oil and fight for whats remaining instead of attempting to move off of this planet. You either adapt or die out. If we cannot adapt to a world without oil, we will die out. Just a continuing cycle.

 

ya, dude that you do have right.
I had that worded the wrong way.

Even after humans die out in another billion years there willl be something else another kind of crazy species... maybe they will do a better job than us.
But we can also help prevent that or something if we do the right things and protect our ozone layer and stop trying to change mother nature.

 

I can agree with that, I honestly want to be a successful species, lol. I want to explore space beyond this tiny blue-green ball that we inhabit. We aren't going to do it by buying re-usable tote bags at Publix though. We're going to do it by advancing sustainable energy technology. Fuck you oil conglomerates.

 

I think almost anybody in their right mind in almost any corner of the earth would agree that the planet needs taken better care of--the problem is that there are a very few at the "top" that control what most of humanity has to put up with. Someone has to figure out what makes a mind so dis-eased that the accumulation of objects is more important than the lives of us all.Greed is blinding to necessity. That is ,assuming there's some compelling reason for life as we know it to continue. I can't really think of one,considering how horrible humans treat one another and the other creatures.

 

You know all that money we spend on nuclear weapons and defense every year? Trillions of dollars. Instead, if we spent that money feeding and clothing the poor of the world, which it would pay for many times over, not one human being excluded, not one, we could as one race, explore outer and inner space together in peace, forever.


-Bill Hicks

 

Agreed.Unfortunately humans carry on as if it's 100,000 , 10,000 ,1,000 ,100 , 10 years,or even 1 day ago. It's an innate weakness in humans that hasn't evolved enough to create a peacefull,well educated,fed,housed and forward looking race of humans for the betterment of all creatures and the very earth we live on.Probably never happen.

 

yeah dude, its like bill hicks... he was saying some shit along the lines of the earth has been here for like billions of years, and we have been here hundreds of thousands...

haha... what the fuck could we do to it? what thew fuck COULD I DO? not shit, fuck that dude...

people who rule with fear just wanna control, its the same shit your parents told you lies when you was little, to control you, to scare you, fuck fear, i just wanna live my life.

 

The oringinal point is valid. Whatever we do to the planet, with the notable exveption of blowing it up or otherwise literally destroying it, it will recover, and life will go on.

It won't be life like we know it, and many species of plants and animals (humans included), will die off never to be seen again. But new ones will evolve and fill in the gaps.

Of course, none of that has to do with environmentalism.... The point to humans taking a stand and saying enough is enough in terms of the damage we are causing, isn't about saving the planet. It's about us (humans) being around to enjoy the planet.

You can tell, because if it was all about 'saving the planet' (in the terms you suggest), the slogan wouldnt be, 'Save the trees", it would be, "Kill the humans"...

 

they're just afraid we will get to some turning point where we are no longer able to support our over consuming lifestyle

it shouldn't be save the planet, it should be
save our selfish way of living for a few more years

 

Haha I got called an annoying environmentalist the other day just because I turn the bathroom light off at work.

Stop being such a cynical fuck. You blame the pollution on the people who are supplying the oil and that we're simply giving them money. Solution: Put down your car keys (you may already have, and if you have, I applaud you for it). Mankind has created this fake necessity in oil, and people who wanna make shitloads of money simply supply it for us. If we stopped driving our cars, started supporting local economy, and traveled by foot and bike (which is a lot more fun, you get to quit your shitty job and live out an adventure), then there wouldn't be a need for oil, and these companies would make no money, and therefore they wouldn't be polluting. It's the individual who pollutes, and as a collective, that pollution adds up.

Same situation with child slavery and wage slavery and sweatshop labor, it's in the end the individuals responsibility to not purchase the products that slavery creates and therefore the people running the sweatshops would make no money and there'd be no sweatshops.

The individual makes the difference, and in the end, Karma will reward them.

 

Skizm, you say there's more important things to do than buy tote bags and green stuff, but why can't you do both bigger things and the little things? buying green stuff and supporting the organic farm for example with our money is the least we should do.
companies are the enemy here, not just from pollution but from monetary reasons like greed. But people don't seem to understand that there will ALWAYS be both sides, neither winning all the time unless you drastically change the problem at the root of the problem. there will be always be the company leaders fighting for oil because they're protecting their own wallet. there will always be the environmentalist that can't succeed because of the other guy and because the change demanded would be valuable in different aspects.
It is retarded to be an environmentalist but at the same time support the monetary system, for example vote democrat. they need to understand that the root of the problem is the system of money. the physics of the system is everyone fight constantly to see who is more worthy. When technology can surpass the need of capital, theres no need for human capital which means no need to fight (no money).
I can't see any other answer to environmentalism