Equal Rights?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Balbus, Jul 14, 2011.

  1. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    Walsh
     
  2. wa bluska wica

    wa bluska wica Pedestrian

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    when rights come into conflict, some individuals will always be more equal than others

    unless we can build a fair society . . .
     
  3. Individual

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    Balbus?
     
  4. TheGhost

    TheGhost Auuhhhhmm ...

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    That is a myth created by politicians.
     
  5. broony

    broony Banned

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    Society will never be fair. The answer to equal rights will always be no. If we were not judged and viewed based on what we own, rather than who we are, it would be a different answer.
     
  6. Aponymous

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    What does it even mean to be equal?
    I find it very hard to believe that those who feel everyone should be equal do truly and sincerely believe that we are all equal.

    Is a baby killer worthy of the same equality as the saint?
     
  7. OptimisticFutureBlues

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    The rights are equal? Me thinks full of shite.

    All colors of skin are just the same generalized group of '******' now. Were all in the same boat if your income is below $250,000. The new judgment is financial, discrimination is now monetary. Get used to it because they have more money than you can even imagine. Your headed for the ice cold water whilst the ship sinks beneath you, they are looking on from their life boats. They see you, hear you and yes feel for you. If even for only once in their lives, they know they will be judged at some point, or some time. In this world or the next. Or at least know that IF they will, it will take a lot of explaining once they get to where their going.

    Its okay though, they have everything they will ever need and can get anything they want. No struggle involved. This may seem like a good thing for them, but the more you have...the less you feel. The less you struggle the less significance you have towards everything. They feel nothing so they have no problem discriminating against us, but we have more than they will ever have in character, personality, and artistic potential. They see us, we're hard to miss. We're the majority. They just don't seem to care.
     
  8. Aponymous

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    So much passion.


    Yet, in the end where does the passion get us?
     
  9. OptimisticFutureBlues

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    A better question would be where does the LACK of passion get THEM?
     
  10. Aponymous

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    afloat.
     
  11. OptimisticFutureBlues

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    It gets them everything they want or could ever need. Which eliminates struggle from their lives and makes everything around them less significant. They die so taken care of I'm convinced that at the moment they die, they feel regret because they know they could have helped more than they did, and suddenly remember everyone else out there suffering allowing the dying man in question to suffer for one final and eternal moment. Just the thought of something like that brings me pleasure.

    Look man I'm poor, you've got to come up with something good to rationalize the fact that you will never know that kind of monetary power. So you look at the things THEY are missing out on too. I look at the scale as moderately balanced from an existential karma sort of perspective. You cant expect me to believe that a man who lives his entire life ignoring and avoiding the rest of the population and has in fact removed himself mentally from the average population will have a good DMT trip on the way out. I seriously doubt it.

    Rights aren't exactly equal anywhere. Especially in the unintentional segregation that goes on between the higher ups and the lower downs. As the average people, what little rights we have are equal in a simple sense. But there's leftover racism, sexism, and a whole mess of how laws are enforced and enacted. These variables enter the court room and can often remove a right or two, relative to the judgment at hand. Once we iron out the variables...maybe. I doubt it though.
     
  12. Individual

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    Equal rights does not necessarily produce equality in achievement.
     
  13. wa bluska wica

    wa bluska wica Pedestrian

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    yes
     
  14. wa bluska wica

    wa bluska wica Pedestrian

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    life is achievement in itself, nothing more need be
     
  15. Individual

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    Obviously this thread is going nowhere.
     
  16. Aponymous

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    The problem I have w/ this post is this:
    But first, your sentiment of having a high level of character, personality, etc... is very noble. And I certainly value those characteristics in anyone.

    However, in your scenario, which IMO is not very far from reality, where do those noble characteristics get you? Underwater. And in the end since the noble are no longer around, having been overtaken and drowned by the greedy, what good have the noble done in the world?

    I think this is a mistake the noble make too often. They stick heavily to their guns and are not willing to strike balance in their lives. Balance between staying true and still staying connected to this materialistic world.

    Many years ago I saw Ice T speak to an audience of college students.
    And he said something about dropping this attitude of being hardcore and thug like and complaining about the man. Instead he said learn to work w/ the man and change the system from w/in. Work w/ the man and then overtake him.

    You have a problem w/ the way the world is?
    Instead of dropping out become a part of the system and change it from w/in.

    This is exactly what the baby boomers did, unfortunately they lost their way somewhere along the line and become infilltrated by greed.
     
  17. Aponymous

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    A baby killer would certainly agree w/ you.
     
  18. Aponymous

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    I choose to look at what I do have. Because the things I have are so much more important then the things I don't have or the things that others (be they my neighbor or the uber wealthy) have.

    idk, man, that makes me extremely sad, that a fellow man has to see the bad in someone else's life to feel better about there own.
    I know you can get to a point where you stop suffering from optimistic future blues and spread that positivity to others around you. Then you would better offset the filth the people you speak of bring to this world.

    consider the possibility that in your life, you are the main variable, the variable w/ the greatest effect.
     
  19. wa bluska wica

    wa bluska wica Pedestrian

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    so might a saint
     
  20. stinkfoot

    stinkfoot truth

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    As would a saint. edit-(what Ghandi's flea said^^^)
     
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