Ether in LSD synthesis

Hey everyone\

 

More importantly, what do you plan to use as a pre-cursor?
Ergotamine tartrate is the best and is controlled as tightly as LSD itself.

 

Lysergic Amides from an ergot infected rye patch. Of course, the chemist must infect the patch himself to ensure about 200lbs of ergot kernels

 

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You can get Ergotamine tartrate at a pharmacy with a prescription. I have yet to find a pharmacy that carries LSD.

 

if i remember correctly ether is only used in washing filter cakes. surely there is a suitable substitute...

 

and metal plating...

 

Been reading UF?

 

you guessed it...not many other sources against which I can check his work though. Seems legit though I'd like to know before actually undertaking the task

 

I think somebody posted a patent for one of the methods of making LSD somewhere here a while ago, don't remember if it was Sandoz's patent application or another company. It laid out the whole procedure.
I'm not motivated enough to search for it, but you can.

 

OK, try ordering a few kilos of it or even ergot from a chemical supply company and see who comes knocking on your door.
The miniscule amount in a prescription medicine would be ridiculously impractical to try to work with.

 

If you knew a chemical researcher or even a student it wouldn't be hard to slowly accumulate a supply of ether. They would notice something like 50 gallons but you could do it, slowly. In large labs people don't notice when a bottle or two goes missing, especially if you are using it as a solvent for your research, which is common with ether.

 

http://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/psychedelicchemistry/chapter7.html


Also the Hoffman patents are US patent 3,239,530 & 3,085,092

 

Yes, it's legit. I would stick to the more proven methods in the book however. When Unc gets off on more theoretical methods he's been known to make mistakes. For instance where he comments that a certain chemical (It eludes me at the moment Edit-propionic anhydride, ain't google cool?) had been placed on list 1 with a threshold of gram and that amount could only be significant for LSD manufacture. In fact it is a key chemical for making fentanyl. But the more established procedures are solid. Also bear in mind that advice on obtaining chemicals written prior to 9/11 and the restrictions that followed is obsolete.

 

That really depends on the chemical in question. I used to work at a company where we made natural food coloring. If you had Snapple, Hunts products, Dreyers ice cream, microwave popcorn of various brands, etc.,etc, in the early 90's, you consumed something I made
Any way, back on topic, we used a lot of ethanol which was controlled by the ATF. I had to keep logs of when and how much ethanol we used, and every quarter they would come in and weigh what we had on hand and test to see if it had been diluted. If things didn't match up, we would be fined and would have lost our license to use ethanol.
So if it is a controlled chemical, it ain't that easy to pilfer.

 

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Why would anyone wanting to make LSD need kilos unless they planned to make enough for whole countries or something?

According to Shulgin's TIHKAL synthesis- http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/tihkal/tihkal26.shtml

He starts with 10g of E.T. (which wouldn't be that hard to get) and ends up with 3.1g of LSD. That's 10,000 doses of 100mic per gram. I didn't notice if he mentions the d- to l- ratio, but even at 50%, it would equal over 15,000 doses.

 

Go big or go home :afro:

 

I think people should learn from the Picard bust and not "put all their eggs in one basket".

 

I could be dumb, but 50 gallons seems like a fucking crazy amount of ether... given that you've figured out much more about LSD synth than myself, you surely know the dose sizes... How about you worry about making amounts of LSD smaller than the average jug of milk, not larger than the average vehicle's fuel reservoir... That's still going pretty big, you know....

I thought ether was really easy to get? isn't it used on diesel engines? How about you hit up 50 different hardware stores, or something? Distill it, if you're such a super chemist and need such huge amounts, and need it to be particularly pure or something.

You fucking well better be behind a large number of proxies, if you think the DEA doesn't use the internet you're bonkers. You should watch what you say, you're being waaay to specific. If you value your freedom, you better be a fuckload more careful than you are right now.

*edit* does anyone know anything of the psychoactivity and/or safety of strait lysergic acid? Is it totally inactive? Also, is "saint anthonys fire", or ergot poisoning, actual poisoning aside from the lysergemides, or is it just a bad trip? Can it generally(or ever) be fatal, whichever causes it? *edit* having read a linked erowid article, DAMN, ALL that shit will dun kill ya dead, right quick. And the raw lysergemides are super vasoconstrictors, and will do the same.

OP, I find it very hard to believe that you will survive this attempt, especially given your ineptitude in posting such detailed information on the web, and irresponsability in that posting it could prevent OTHER, SMARTER chemists from making LSD or get them found out, by calling attention to the ways and means they are or would be getting reagents. You'll do a lot more than shoot your eye out, kid. Also, did you not think that if you scale up the reaction, you scale up all the dangers associated with it? There are no safety precautions that are going to help much with what you want to do, because it involves such flat out dumb use of such massive amounts of such explosive and toxic chemicals. You're going to create a fucking superfund toxic cleanup site, as WELL as die.

Sorry if I sound like an asshole, guess I'm being one right now. But someone needed to be. Scale your shit down and grow a brain.

 

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