ever get the feeling you're being watched?

http://www.ktbs.com/news/25413140/detail.html

excerpt:

"SAN FRANCISCO -- Yasir Afifi, a 20-year-old computer salesman and community college student, took his car in for an oil change earlier this month and his mechanic spotted an odd wire hanging from the undercarriage. The wire was attached to a strange magnetic device that puzzled Afifi and the mechanic. They freed it from the car and posted images of it online, asking for help in identifying it. Two days later, FBI agents arrived at Afifi's Santa Clara apartment and demanded the return of their property - a global positioning system tracking device now at the center of a raging legal debate over privacy rights."

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holy shit dude. and they have the right to do that?

 

I was watching a blurb on this last weekend. The issue seems to be that if it was placed on the vehicle when it was on public property it is legal.

Now it will be have to be decided if it was or if it is legal.

They appear to have not found anything on this person and they are stating that it was profiling and unwarranted.

I would imagine it would be a shock for anyone to discover something like that on their vehicle.

 

That's nasty.

The FBI thinks they can do whatever they want to anybody they want, because they are Bond, James Bond.

 

With things like this being debated it seems just a matter of time before our daily movements are a matter of record to be used to generate revenue and conduct investigations when warranted... in the interest of our safety and security of course.

 

Im glad I have a normal Caucasian name and appearance, but I suppose that only goes so far nowadays

 

We probably wouldn't be reading about it...

 

We were talking about this in history last week. His only "crime" was of being of Egyptian Muslim descent... It's legal, but unethical

 

Not for long

 

To be fair, we don't know that do we?

 

sound weird but what can we do, I never tought about things like that, lol,

 

This type of thing generates numerous nuances.

For example, the mechanic could have mistaken it for a bomb and called the police or FBI.

The car owner could have sent the device on a midnight train to Georgia or air mail to Egypt to be silly and gotten in trouble for that (something similar happened with a plant that had a bug and was sent to the O.J. Simpson lawyer team as a gift to try to spy on them).

The car owner can get into legal problems for having the property of the FBI and not returning it promptly.

People could have impersonated the FBI or some other group just to get a hold of the device from the car owner out of curiosity

The device probably has the car owner's fingerprints all over it (it looks like he handled it). The FBI probably now has a nice set of fingerprints without having to detain or arrest him, assuming he returned the device.

And so on.

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Poor guy, if they had a reason to suspect him, fine, but it seems his only red flag was his name.

Hopefully the American public won't put up with this, because the FBI might expand their list of unacceptable names...John Smith could be too generic to be real, let's track him. That sort of thing.

 

This is why I'm not too quick to get on the anti tea-party bandwagon.

They're the ones with the guns... someone has to do it if this shit keeps up. It aint gonna be me.

 

Conversely as an african american there’s no place to hide

Signed - Kareem Sharif Abdul Jabbar (but my friends call me Malik)


Hotwater

 

I always though your name was Mohammed.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGPlCLf9AZ8"]YouTube - Michael Jackson Somebody's Watching Me

 

With a name like that, you deserve 3 GPS units attached to your car.

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Fuck giving it back. If the feds can justify putting a tracking unit on someone's property because it is in public, than any spy devices found on said property no longer belong to the FBI... why? because they left it in public and, using the argument that justifies their spying, if you leave your property in public, it's liable to get fucked with

 

That's one of the contention points. I haven't followed all the details of the story. They apparently put it on a car that was private property but while the car was on public property.

Wonder how they put it on the car without people noticing.

Now then. Maybe the auto mechanics are 'in on it'.

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