Ever tried to induce a bad trip?

Yes, I know it sounds weird, but I'm honestly interested in making myself have a "bad" trip. There are 2 reasons for this: to be more aware of what someone's going through the next time I have to help them out and to possibly work out some issues of my own.

I know what I'm getting in for, to a degree, having taken large doses of mushrooms (7 grams of potent homegrown cubes), DMT (around 75 mg eyeballed), 5-MeO-AMT (15+ mg) and moderate doses of LSD (5 potent blotters). I've had extremely intense good experiences and realize that the bad will be just as intense. My problem is that I don't know how I'd induce one in a safe environment.

I don't think high doses alone would do it, because I'm completely fine with letting go of my ego and I have a very strong mind. I have a friend who I'm sure would be willing to be a sitter and let me stay in his house for a few hours. He has a lot of psychedelic experience himself, maybe more than me.

I've felt everything from perfection to "blah" while tripping and now I want to experience the other end of the spectrum. Any suggestions?

 

If you want to have a bad trip then I would suggest using any fears or phobias you might have during the trip. For example, if you are afraid of the dark drop acid at night and go out into the darkest woods. If you are claustrophobic have someone lock you in a closet after taking 10 hits.

 

Inducing a bad trip by using phobias would be a bad trip without drugs. Never tried mentally inducing a bad trip though, also never tried inducing a good trip.

 

I've thought of that, but I don't have any phobias or anything like that. Maybe spiders, if there were a LOT, but I'm not really afraid of them, I just don't like them.

 

This is what I want to do as well. I want to have the knowledge and experience of a bad trip.

 

I have tried to induce an overwhelmingly unpleasant experience and failed the few times. Due to the constraints of where I am able to be in this state to let go 100% is unwise. This hindering factor may very well be a safety that prevents a larger amount of control (control being a slightly subjective in some senses) in such tests.

There was a very apparent effect by specific pieces of music in the modification of mood and thoughts, this may be a tool of assisting with the inducement of a wanted experience.

The one bad trip (this came without attempting) in which I still feel very inclined to use "overwhelming experience" as it was simply that. The use of bad trip could be part of a catalyst to increase the probability of frightful and/or negative experiences due to the word usage and association.

Regardless of what you call a bad trip your reasons for seeking one is a wonderful way to comprehend others of whom fall into their dark abyss and perhaps assist them beyond the ability of a normal outsider.

 

yeah listen to John Zorn, watch the movie Pi... Or smoke a ton Salvia extract while you are tripping, you will be in the state of total psychedelic obliteration. Maybe if you ate Mushrooms like 2 hours before you have to do something REALLY important, ha. Just depends how far you want to go i guess...

 

I don't want to be in public for this. I never thought of a movie. Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas always fucked with me, since it's basically one long bad trip. Maybe I'll try that.

 

if i wanted to have a bad trip, i'd do acid + mdma and i'd watch the news, or the movie The Corporation, or Baraka.

 

Just try to focus your mind on fear, paranoia, insanity, evil, negativity, etc. I've never tried to have a bad trip so I'm just mentioning things that are usually associated with them. Also more then the other movies mentioned previously, "Reflections of Evil" is a two hour insane trip. Here's a trailer for it - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrYgtbWUs2U

 

Here's something that nearly sent me on a bad trip -

Me and 3 mates had just left a party and were walking through town (about 1-2am so pretty deserted). We decided to sit on a bench and skin up so i was just getting my stuff out when one of my best mates was sat on the floor doing something weird with his keys.
He had a glowstick on his leg (he was cross-legged) and was stabbing the hell out of it (like someone would with a knife to a corpse on a horror movie). All of the juice was spurting out like blood all over his leg and he was laughing madly. It looked like blood pouring all down him and then he asked us if we had any "knives or sharp things". He also looked pretty damn psychotic... that nearly sent me on a bad 'un.

 

wait till you get really smashed, then try getting some cops to chase you. happened to me and i flipped my wig. i got away but i was scared as shit and hid in a bush for about 5 hours and was so fuckin paranoid. and i was alone which made it weirder.

 

get some paper or somthing and write down many bad things. read them, and when your not reading them, think them and beleive them.

- i am dieing. i am dead. im looosing my mind. nothing is real. im in no where. zombie murderer i am insane, help me. help. please imagine grusome things like people gettin hit and chopped up and dieing and its happening to your mum, shes cut in half. your cut in half. you;ll never bee the same after this man. somethings chasing you, you cant escape, demons everyone is evil, trying to kill you, start to imagine demons moving from each shadow send your self mad man.

 

think about getting a papercut on your eyeball. think about feeling yourself burning to death. think about being in the middle of the ocean without a boat or anything. think about sociopaths, rapists, murderers, cult leaders, the government, conspiracies. how many bugs are living inside your body. all the other disgusting things inside of you. mix together all the smelliest things you can find (like garlic, berries, mustard, and peanut butter would be pretty bad), and then take a big sniff. watch any of the videos on peta.com. there are so many scary and sad and gross things in the world to trip on.

 

take five hits of good acid and go into the mall for a busy saturday. hang out in the mall for the hole trip. if that doesnt freak you out i dont know what will. oh - make sure you smoke a few joints as well!

 

While I don't doubt that this would work, I don't want to end up in jail, which I almost certainly would. I don't want that kind of bad trip.

 

something else that i am sure would work but that i would not recommend you try is... do something completely immoral or horribly bad or disgusting before you trip... - (ie - beat up a little kid, rape your sister or murder your mother) ... warning - if you were to do this you would have a hell of a lot more then a bad trip to deal with - but you would get your bad trip...lol. even shop lifting could work. anything to make you feel guilty. why you would want to do this is beyond me.

honestly i think bad trips are for those who need them. if you are not having them then you do not need them.

take what comes to you and be thankful.

just ask for what you are looking for - in some way i am sure you will find what you are after.

 

not trying to put you down or anything...but i think this is the most retarded ideas i have ever heard of....who the fuck wants to freakout? i mean i know what you mean when you say you want to know what to do the next time someone else has a bad trip so you can help them, but my god man. i think that shit is selective...you havent freaked out cause its not your time...some people never have a time, nothing but good trips all their lives. so i would say let it come naturally. but if you must....take a strip or two and go down in your basement and get naked and just start talking to your water heater...its bound to start talking back sometime.

 

I understand how you guys think this is a bad idea, but I still want to try it. I can't do anything too horribly immoral. I just don't have it in me anymore.

And don't get me wrong, I am thankful as hell that the only way I will be able to get a bad trip is to induce one. Don't get me wrong, I know it can happen to anyone - I certainly respect the power of LSD, but I've been in some shitty atmosphere around people I shouldn't have been, and it always kind of dulls the trip, instead of making it bad.

I was thinking of writing down all my regrets in life that I can remember and reading those during the trip. Maybe it'll work.

 

Yeah, to whome said the mall. Ive told people tripping at the mall would be the worst trip you could have. Sitting on a bench, watching mindless 1 sided robots stair at you with their new bags of goodies... lol