Exeperience with xans & why I'll never do them again

I've had problems with xanax ever since I was 14, i'm 19 now & a few months ago I was up to 20 footballs or 10 bars , and one day me and my buddy (swim i'll call him) , Me & swim got a bag of 24 bars and decided to split them while already fucked up on a 16 oz bottle of liquid loritab, in a period of an hour the whole bag was gone and we orderd up more already outta our fucking minds, (gave the guy we got them off of a extra 40$ like fuckheads) so we start eating the rest , After we finished I remember watching friday..

The next thing i know im at my house down the street and I have a pond in the backyard and my buddy drops his iphone in my pond and just keeps walking, we ended up getting bikes outta the garage that were old as fuck , & ride them down the main st we live by to our buddies house, once we got there we had more loritab and was giving everyone shots, i went up stairs and i guess we took my boys weed and smoked it and passed out on his bed, & his mom (who doesnt care that we do drugs) made our boy stay up and make sure we didn't die..

So I got a call from my boss saying he was on his way to get me for work (im cool as fuck with him ) , so he comes and gets me and since we're really cool he noticed i was fucked up still and I guess I told him I was hungover , when I got to coney island where I work , I couldnt get outta the car and it as horrible I then felt dead as fuck and couldnt even move, So he let me sleep in the car, (it was 11 am) .. I then woke up at (8pm) closing time,

not knowing where I was and very confused, still fucked up with mustard all over me? I guess I ate chicken pattys with mustard.. I got home and my mom wasnt home so me still being fucked up was wondering where my buddy was... I walked still gone as fuck to my boys house that wer rode bikes too & I found out he went to his grandmas , so I knew shit was gonna go bad... I had my buddy (my boss) drive me over there , and my dumbass knocks on the door and his grandma and him are standing there and shes asking us what we're on... I ofcourse lie fucked up on zans and say nothing, and and that right moment when I said "nothing" my boy spills pepsi EVERYWHERE and i'm like.. fuckk...

So they kicked him out and my bud drove us home where we went to sleep and slept till the next night, still feeling shitty and slurring our words we realized what the fuck happend.. and we were absolutley pissed at the world especially at our selfs.. I had a blunt saved in the garage so we split it and it suprisingly kicked in the xans because we werent 100% all the way sober yet.. and my buddy knocks over my plasma in the garage where we chill & thats when it hit me that we had to go to fucking sleep , we woke up and my mom was sitting on the couch ,

KNOWING that she knew that we were fucked up I told her everything and she knew I've been smoking and drinking and poppin pills and experimenting since I was 16 (even tho it started at 14..) & she told me that If I did it again I was out.. so simple as that my mom didnt wanna talk to me, she barely wanted me in the house and told me I as basically headed towards being just like my dad blah blah, It didnt bother me until I realized how much it hurt her and that I found out my lil brother seen me the whole time, which is terrible..

And with my mom mad as fuck and dissapointed my 10 yr old brother seeing me fucked up, my sister pissed off, my boys grandparents dont let me over their house anymore, my boys mom who i got fucked up with thinks its my fault for her son taking zannys and hates me, MY mindstate feeling TERRIBLE for a whole week after as a side effect, LOSING ALL our money / spending it on xans , Almost dying and it hit me thats this drug isnt meant to get fucked up on it's a serious drug for people with crazy anxiety and here I am fucking up my life on this lil bars .

It's been 3 1/2 months and I havent touched them.. It wasn't my intentions to eat so many, but getting fucked up and taking them you dont even realize you eat more and more and more , and it really fucked us up.. Stick to the good drugs, not the ones where your a complete dumbfuck and sloppy..

Just a experience I'd like to share with you young kids who like to take them bars cos I know I sure did, I really thought they were the shit until this, once you get a experience like this where you realize you coulda died, killed someone, lost family, it's not worth it, go smoke some ganj, take some vics, or trip on some shrooms or Lsa , occasionally roll off some beans but leave the xans alone maaan,

 

''Just a experience I'd like to share with you young kids''

I have underwear older then you. Glad to hear you're slowing down though, otherwise that one day we'll read about you in the paper.

 

Haha i didn't mean it like that, im still a young kid, i'm talking about these 14/15 yr olds still in school drinking four lokos on bars haha& id suggest getting new underwear lmao

 

I've been on Xanax/Ativan/Klonopin for a large portion of my life which isn't much to others but about a 10 year vet with Benzodiazapines, with the once in a while pleasure of taking too much. I've never had an experience like that before. Sounds like some bad side effects, and have you ever experienced anything close to that before? I've taken 40-60 xanax bars, one day within a four hour span. Though it was enjoyable I had lost function of my primary motor skills, and slurred as I stumbled trying to tell people I was fine. When I woke up felt a bit dreamy, but no paralyzation effect at all.

I see you know better, but I do stress not to use alcohol or opiates, whether codeine, vicodin, dilaudid, morphine, heroin or others with a CNS depressant. The odds of coming out alive are quite high, as I see many people talk about it, and myself have tried at very high level (very stupid), mixing it with alcohol is another something I tried and hope to tell everyone it is terrible, as you can keep drinking and not notice the respiratory distress you have then reached. I am not saying you shouldn't do it, but don't over due it. Everyone will have to make mistakes, and when it comes to drugs a lot of us's curiosity will get the best of us, not to mention the inner motor drive for pleasure, will cause us to dwell deeper than we thought we would go. It's a dangerous path if you ingest too much of certain substances. But glad you are not on it, or as much, though I find it very helpful to take a few bars when having a stressful time, or a few more when a panic attack comes my way.

I'm actually quite surprised how vivid your memory is afterwards, if it was enough to make you lost complete motor function. My memory gets a bit hazy, as I didn't know I was trying to have sex, after a large dose was consumed. My lady told me I just couldn't get it up, and that I was slurring terrible pick up lines, in a comedic way. Though I remembered parts of it afterwards only after a retelling was interesting. Though I would at least keep myself away from any sort of vehicle (bicycle/car/boat) at the best rate I could.

Not to be an enabler, but there is many another drugs out there that give great pleasure without the need to take more as I find xanax to have a nice euphoria, but my body is out of proper function and barely notice it. With opiates (extremely addictve) I find that the pleasure is swarming across every part of my being, as the warmth pressing from my chests reaches to the smallest and farthest parts of my toes. I lay in wonder as my body feels things normally no one could achieve sober. The feeling of love and tranquility surround me for hours. With no need to tack on other pharmaceuticals, it is the definition of euphoria, with the human body and mind being made to accept the indulgence it is a very dangerous place to find yourself. Many friends who have tried this route including myself have had the experience of high tolerance and the travels of withdrawel, being not worth the seemingly endless indulgence of a good opiate based high.

Although this isn't a ply for you to join us, on the darker side of pharms, this is just a means of self-expression on the drugs and experiences. As I know 1 person that had died of respiratory distress caused by benzodiazipines and alcohol. Not too high of a dose really, he had just started and well took it overboard. The moral of this moral-less story is not to overdue it, as if we're going to do it, we will find a way. Just teaching safety over abstinence. I'm not here to influence or guide but just suggesting option, to hope someone chooses a 'better' path.

 

Youthinasia youre a pretty intelligent guy, & I respect your post , I remember certain parts , but this was over a 3 day span & I had a lot of people tell me what I was doing etc etc, I really like pharms but i now like my vics perks loritabs lorisets & norcos , i tend to stay away from heroine , oxy, roxy & such.

I have many experiences on bars, infact I stole 600$ worth of xbox 360 controllers , mics & bluetooths from a place im not gonna name, woke up with 160$ in my pocket from trading it into gamestop (dumb as fuck) & not no where i got it till i met up with my buddy who was with me & told me what we did.

I tend to stay away from downers like xanax because I like to know what i'm doing , & on xanax I get pretty angry or end up stealing shit, while on opiates im chill & like to laugh & just hangout.

 

Ps, 30-40 bars would be one hell of a ride, i do miss them but its best i substitue with other pharms & drugs.

 

Everytime i do xanny's i always black out and get in trouble

 

ha I'm actually 16 and was thinking about doing some Xanax but after that i probably won't
Anyway i hope things get better

 

Its amazing to experiment with drugs man, but wait a while before you do zans and dont think cos you have tolerance for one drugs you can handle tons of another, buddy of mine od'd the first time he took em' only took 4 bars.

If you do try em stay educated , only try a football your first time or some valum

 

I can't force myself to read this entire thread because the posts are not structured in an asthetically pleasing way. My eyes cannot read computer type that isn't broken up into paragraphs every four or five lines.

Anyways, the reason I quoted this is simply because I want to know if in "the big block" of text, the person claimed that they had a cross-tolerance because of un-related drugs.

Generally, the only drugs that one can cross-convert with, are drugs that do the EXACT same pharmacological function. For example, Fentanyl and Morphine both act only as Opioid-Receptor Agonists. Thus, with the PROPER conversion ratio (1 milligram of Fentanyl is equivalent to around 300 mg of Morphine if I remember off the top of my head - don't take it as fact) you can cross-convert.

But consider Cocaine and Amphetamine. While on the surface, you would think, as both stimulants with very similar effects, that one could cross-convert, this is not true. There exists SOME cross-tolerance between the two, but they act in SUBTLY different ways.

Cocaine acts to suppress a cellular pump called the Dopamine Transporter (and also some other reuptake pumps). In doing so, "excessive" amounts of Dopamine "floating" about in the brain, which NORMALLY would be sucked up by the Dopamine Transporter and metabolized, LINGERS and causes euphoria (euphoria is caused in part or in full by heavy flow of dopamine in the mid-brain).

But Amphetamine works by reversing the flow of the Vesicular Monoamine Transpoter. This transporter works by directly "gating" the amount of Dopamine, etc. which leaves the cell. It is not an autoreceptor like the Dopamine Transporter. So, instead of the VMAT sucking up Dopamine in its prescribed fashion, it actually RELEASES Dopamine, blindly, into the synapse.

Thus, even thought for Cocaine and Amphetamine, the end result is elevation of Dopamine, they do so by different means. Thus, for someone like me with a tolerance to Amphetamine (since I am prescribed a pretty size-able dose of Adderall), would actually want to start off with a "beginner's dose" of Cocaine should I decide to try the white powder some day.


I hope that helps.

 

I can't believe the tolerance some of you guys have for that drug. I can get a good nights sleep on just one of my 0.5's. I fucked up with them one time a few years ago when I took 4 of them on top of around 12-14 beers. I slept about 18 hours and promised myself I'd never do it again. I'm prescribed 3 0.5's per day for anxiety, but I noticed that my pain meds work for anxiety as well, so I just use the Xannies to sleep, and not every night. I don't know, I guess I just don't see much recreational potential for them. Plus, I've heard if you get hooked on those and decide to quit that the wd's can go on for 5 years. I have no idea if that's true, it's just something I read.

 

Not that I am in any way proud before somebody drops that line. I once lost 1200 dollars and wrecked my car on 15 bars so yea now I take a quarter and can barley stay awake haha note to self!!!! 1/4-1/2 a bar=sleepy me. 5-10-15 bars=me wired on Xanax and ruining my life and everybody around me. I have at least 25 friends with 100 stories just like yours man it sucks but at least you seem to of learned.

Just remember all this shit in a year when it your Bday or some shit and you think 2 won't hurt. I figured out a long time ago it's not the 2 vicodin today that get me it's the 20 a day I'm taking next week. Try and remember that man.

 

Actually, I like the idea of this thread.

Started off eating 1-2 bars, eventually stole over $500 bought 100 bars, got pulled over for speeding with ~90 bars, 25ish perc 10s, some bud.

too many potentially devasting scenarios like that happen on xanax.

very addicting, so are painkillers though dude, the same thing happens with those lol

 

Oh I don't even have a benzo issue that's what's sad. I was/am a opiate addict so I happened to be out and I took like 10 bars then 5 later to just kill WDs and then fucked my shit all up.

 

There seems to be a persistent pattern with heavy benzo use. Once you get fucked up you just keep taking them compulsively until you run out or die.