Fast "food" restaurants...

Discussion in 'Protest' started by verseau_miracle, Jul 2, 2005.

  1. verseau_miracle

    verseau_miracle Banned

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    Ok people, there is absolutely NO denying it, and NO justifying it...fast food restaurants are destroying the world.

    Fast food restaurants are...

    Chopping down our rainforest, and therefore killing our oxygen supply, at an alarming rate. This also kills thousands of animals, and even makes rarer rainforest creatures become extinct.

    Using tons of non-renewable packaging, ad therefore adding to the pollution of this Earth.

    Treating animals badly in life, and giving them a painful death.

    Taking advantge of their workers, and paying them very little for such an ugly job.

    Paying poor people peanuts to chop down their rainforest homes.

    Poisoning the bodies of millions. This stuff isnt "food", but the unwanted bits of the animals dead carcasses all minced up.

    Encouraging people to get in their cars and drive to their drive-thrus. The effects of this are obvious and too terrible to think about.

    So i appeal to you...i aim currently boycottin all fast food chains. I ask you, no, i beg you, each and evey one of you, to do the same, and make a tiny difference to such a horrificly large and rapid destruction of our planet, and ourselves.

    Thank you-Maxi.Xx
     
  2. Sarin

    Sarin Member

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    I aggree with you in every way about fast foods, I cant say I dont eat them, well i havnt in a while, but From now on I am with you in this Protest to stop eating Fast food, ahh but what about chienese and Chi Chi(which is a health food place) ahh well ok i am off it as well.
    Come on people help the world
    peace and love
     
  3. .......if every person were required to take a cooking class instead of bullshit P.E. classes in the U.S, then obesity would be a thing of the past......
     
  4. verseau_miracle

    verseau_miracle Banned

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    nice one sarin:)

    I agree about cookery class. I live in England and we never had a cooking class once during the whole of my education. What we did have was a load of overweight kids.

    Xx
     
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    i saw a really fabulous doco on sbs the other night called 'mclibel'. these two english people were brought to court for allegedly defaming macdonalds restuarants but refused to apologise to macdonalds and ran the libel defence themselves (without any lawyers) and WON!!! well, i'm not sure they exactly won in the strict technical sense but i know they certainly gave macdonalds a big fucking headache: the programme said that the next year, for the first time, macdonalds world wide profits had gone down and they thought it was due to this libel case... gives u heart, no?
     
  6. verseau_miracle

    verseau_miracle Banned

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    Id like to talk to these mclibel people...maybe we could start up another protest:D

    That did make me smile though, so thanks! Im glad to see that other people are aware of this issue, and it aint just me goin mad.

    Xx
     
  7. wiggy

    wiggy Bitch

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    i agree with u totally, i hate fast food places. they taste like shite, they have to much fat. people dont relise when they are driving through to order their food that the packaging is killing us, the food is killing them. i will agree with your protest and boycott fast food as well, not that i eat it anyway but i have had a few drinks from there so i wont anymore. it would be good if other people joined as well. its fair enough people saying they will but not achally doing anything. if people know any websites and things that might bring awareness to this issue that would be better. xxx
     
  8. matthew

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    They did not win or lose neither did mcdonalds.. concessions were made on both sides the trial dragged on that long it almost took the piss.. plus most of the things that were on there posters was speculative and biased . In the end McDonalds gave them a few of there briefs to help them with the paper work..

    As most of the 'oxygen supply' comes from the sea placton and such , thats the thing we should be worried about..i appreciate vast swathes of the rain forest is being chopped down.. mcdonalds fault ? 0.00000001% responsibility

    http://www.mcspotlight.org/case/trial/verdict/verdict5_sum.html

    Farmers do, a small percentage of suppliers have been found to mis-treat there animals . this goes on in all area of the meat industry..

    http://media.guardian.co.uk/site/story/0,14173,1500187,00.html

    just the way they 'normaly' kill animals is a gross mistreatment..

    How are they taking advantage ? paying them above minnimum wage..don't forget it is just 'flipping burgers' .

    I think you just made that one up.

    hardly

    Quarter Pound 100% Beef Patty:
    100% pure USDA inspected beef; no additives, no fillers, no extenders. *Based on the weight before cooking 4 oz. (113.4g).


    Scaremongerer.

    Just read the 'verdict' and look into it yourself people.
    http://www.mcspotlight.org/case/trial/verdict/verdict0_sum.html
     
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  11. drumminmama

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    Fast food is a commodity based on the financial bottom line.
    In the US, where the great multi-headed monster was born, franchisee's workers are the lowest paid in any industry. Even if an employee gets much above minimum, and that employee is likely to have some pseudo-manegerial title like "shift leader", the employee will not be given enough hours to qualify for benefits (often reserved for only the top two or three employees, and often used by the franchisee to acquire heatlh insurance for his or her own family).
    Vacation time? HA!
    If the restaurants demad the cheapest prices, they get cheap supplies.
    Some corporations control all inventory, by making all the contracts for the restaurants form suppliers.
    McDonalds is the No. 1 purchaser of beef followed by Burger King.
    When those two demand things, they get them.
    A lot of what the OP said was rhetoric from 1989, I heard it a lot in the UK. This was the spying time that led to McLibel, BTW.
    I also saw Green Party gatherings with styrofoam cups.
    It's hard to save the world in a day.
    For a scathing and accurate look into the world of fast food, read Eric Schlosser's Fast Food Nation:The Dark Side of the All-American Meal.
     
  12. james q

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    I am not realy the one who is giving out mis-information, and clear under representation of information, 'in a terribly incontinent way' am i ?.

    well, it looks like ur contributing ur fair share, matthew.

    hahahaha no one, it may appear that way. Sorry for not just sticking with a vast hyperbole of info, not backed up with anything. Just because i don't buy into this kinda thing does not mean i have been 'bought off'.

    noone said u were bought off. it did sound to moi however, rather like u were an apologist for maccers trying to piddle on this parade, that's all.
     
  13. verseau_miracle

    verseau_miracle Banned

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    i few words about what matthew saw as being "vast hyperbole"...

    I actually sincerely believe that what i wrote was an understatement, not an exaggeration.

    My argument does not need to be "backed up by facts". Anyone with eyes and a brain can see that everything ive said is true and logical. Non-renewable packaging WILL pollute the Earth, and so will people getting in cars.

    As for me trying to scare people, why would i want to? I used to enjoy my fast food meals as much as anyone. If you care to do a little research, search the net and check out some websites on the matter, youll see that thousands of people are concerned about this issue, and research HAS been done which shows fast food to be highly responsible for the destruction of our rainforests.

    As for me "making it up" about the poor people of the amazon rainforest, i got my information from a bbc documentary on the matter, which filmed the lives of a peaceful jungle tribe, and which also showed them weeping uncontrollably from the guilt theyd felt, as they had given in to the white businessman in the area, and chopped down their forest home. I cannot imagine how anyone could believe this to have been faked...and why would they go to all that bpther to fake something like that?

    All i can say to you matthew, and others like you, is the truth is you simply care too much about what you view to be parts of everyday life, and cannot accept that these issues need to be looked into and thought needs to be given about everyone in the world, not just people with enough money to buy a cheeseburger.
     
  14. matthew

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    Well you did ask if i was 'bought off'

    I admit to being a advocate for a bit of honesty. The amount of times i have read the kind of rhetoric that verseau_miracle spoutes, makes me want to scream; thats why i posted.
    Argue with what i stated thats all i ask, i don't see any of that so far.
    I was just trying to add a element of reason.
    I note you question my intent towards the two individuals, not the brunt of what i posted.
    I only posted info' from both sides, with a link towards the actual case, and a request for people to read the actual information.

    Very true, but you was directing your venom towards a particular target, that being the fast food market, in particular McDonalds, i wanted some proof towards your claim.

    I have done research, (i again state) i saw no one rubuting my original post. That would prove or disprove your/my points (whould it not ?).
    Ok, why not be a bit more informative and not 'claim' these things with no 'proof' just a 'a call to arms'.

    The removal of 'jungle people' i can't realy question, as i know this to be the truth, just the notion that the fast food industry (i.e Mcdonalds) had anything to do with this, i question. I apologise for stateing you 'made it up' but nothing you posted made me think otherwise.

    I don't think these issues should be a part of 'every day life'. I was just respondinding to your banal original post that draws on a multitude of antiquated opinion, backed up with nothing at all. Point out were i was wrong, or i am mis-informed ?.
     
  15. verseau_miracle

    verseau_miracle Banned

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    Matthew,

    Hey again. Ive read through all the posts again very carefully. You basically seem like a decent guy...i just got very angry when you tried to discredit my very personal and heartfelt plea. I didnt actually state macdonalds as the major problem, although now you come to mention it, it probably is. I dont know why you feel the need to defend this particular restaurant so strongly!

    I can totally understand you wanting to keep anything that is not factual and correct away from these boards, but i really was speaking with reason in mind, even if it didnt seem like it.

    Anyway all the best-Maxi.Xx
     
  16. verseau_miracle

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    P.s-i do however completely resent you calling my honest concern for this planet "venom" (have just read through the posts again) The target was fast food restaurants because from what ive gathered, they are the problem. end of. those people on the programme were being payed(peanuts)by owners of a fast food chain. And fast food cahins ARE destroying the rainforest(admitedly they are not the only ones, but ANYONE touching ANY of the rainforest is a concern of mine.)

    Anyway any more ideas on this subject are welcome, and i urge people to take things ive said as a serious concern...and if they are unconvinced, search for answers on the matter themselves.

    Xx
     
  17. matthew

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    Shucks i am a 'decent guy'. I was just trying to add balance to the arguement. If it seemed like i was trying to 'discredit' your plea, it was only because it seemed outdated or even wrong. Within this thread now hopefuly is both opinions, personaly i think your opinion will ultimatly 'win', either rightly or wrongly.

    Ditto

    xxxx
     
  18. verseau_miracle

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    I dont want it to win...i want people to think beyond cheeseburger munchin automation and consider consequences...a few more boycotts would be good too;)
     
  19. listen to screw

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    if anyone tries to stop me from going into mcdonalds and getting a buger, im gonna be punchin them in their face
     
  20. DreamerSpirit

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    I don't like fast food anyways and never really eat at McDonalds or Burger King or whatever anyways, so boycotting isn't gonna be all too hard for me.

    I often wonder how people can eat McDonalds disgusting excuse for food! Eww!
    I much preferr wholesome and home-cooked vegitarian meals!
     

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