feminists

Discussion in 'Women's Forum' started by Woodstock_Blazer, Oct 19, 2005.

  1. Woodstock_Blazer

    Woodstock_Blazer Member

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    although i support feminism, dont you hate those arrogant ones who hate all men, are ppl like that here? :(
     
  2. MoonjavaSeed

    MoonjavaSeed Yeah, Toast!

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    AHahhaha.. They can be very uh.. ahah :rolleyes:

    But they might have more reason behind it than you know.

    I am not a she-woman man hater, so... That's my two cents. ahhaha.
     
  3. JavaJade

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    Not here. Guys are cool.
     
  4. dawn_sky

    dawn_sky Senior Member

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    I've actually met very few feminists who are like that (which isn't a statement on how common they are, which I don't know, but how good I am at avoiding such people!).

    IMO, man-haters have very little justifiable ground to stand on -- feminism as I understand it is about establishing some gender equality, not about oppressing the oppressor, not about becoming the very thing you're rallying against.

    I don't recall any regular posters here who are like that...
     
  5. IronGoth

    IronGoth Newbie

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    RE: feminism as I understand it is about establishing some gender equality, not about oppressing the oppressor

    The HELL?

    Feminism is about what's yours is mine and what's mine is mine.

    I get to have Curves gym to not have to work out next to your ICKY self, but if you want to play golf by yourselves, I'll get a federal court to order you to let me in.

    I want the right to serve in combat, but not to be drafted.

    I want to buy your DNA from a bank, with the COMPLETE UNDERSTANDING THAT it's TRANSACTIONAL, no sex.... and then sue you for child support.

    Come off it.

    Maybe some of the gender equalists aren't like that, but the professional victim class is alive and well.
     
  6. Oz!

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    women who actually hate men ain't feminists dude.......
     
  7. Becknudefck

    Becknudefck Senior Member

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    yea...the women who are feminists who hate men are what we call butch lesbians....
     
  8. IronGoth

    IronGoth Newbie

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    They call themselves that, though. They have entire uni departments, and all.
     
  9. dawn_sky

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    In your mind it may be...

    That Curves gym is not feminism, it's capitalism. You'll never catch me in one of those unless it's the cheapest option. If this bothers you, why don't you petition a federal court to let you into Curves?

    I don't think anyone should be drafted. If you cannot amass a sufficient volunteer military, you clearly do not have the support of the people and should get the fuck out of your little war.

    Not to mention the fact that many people do not think thru these issues very coherently. People often hold what seem to be contradictory political opinions, each for very different reasons but when you look at the two together they appear oppositional.

    Yes, that's absolutely ridiculous. Again, that's not feminism as I understand it. That's insanity.

    You seem to have a skewed view of how common this is. What percentage of women who buy sperm from a bank actually try to collect child support from the donor? So one freak did it -- to you that means all women are after that... You have some serious personal victimization issues to work thru yourself, before you throw stones at any other professional victims...
     
  10. IronGoth

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    RE: That Curves gym is not feminism, it's capitalism.

    Supporting the idea that NO WOMEN = WRONG AND ILLEGAL and NO MEN = YOU GO GIRL is Feminism.

    RE: I don't think anyone should be drafted. If you cannot amass a sufficient volunteer military, you clearly do not have the support of the people and should get the fuck out of your little war.

    Unless you're worried that a bomb will blow up your little girl, so you want other people to be sent out to fight for you. It's the same thing feminism wants - for others to do the work and for them to reap the benefits and any privileges they want.

    RE: Not to mention the fact that many people do not think thru these issues very coherently.

    I've been subjected to wimmin's studies lectures. I agree wholeheartedly with your statements.

    RE: Yes, that's absolutely ridiculous. Again, that's not feminism as I understand it. That's insanity.

    MAN = sperm bank and wallet. AGAIN it isn't men who want this...

    RE: You seem to have a skewed view of how common this is.

    Feminism isn't common.

    RE: What percentage of women who buy sperm from a bank actually try to collect child support from the donor? So one freak did it -- to you that means all women are after that... You have some serious personal victimization issues to work thru yourself, before you throw stones at any other professional victims...

    It's not that one freak did it - it's that it was allowed to happen and that it was supported.

    Not all men beat women back when you could - but other men did nothing about it. That was the patriarchy and that was wrong.
     
  11. Green

    Green Iconoclastic

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    Women are constantly taking control of mens lives. How many guys do you know that are working asses off so their wives can be lazy and drive SUVs and have 3 Children?

    www.nomarriage.com

    www.americanwomensuck.com

    I'm not going to be one of the ones who pays her way. I'm not going to be the one who gives half his paycheck to child support.
     
  12. IronGoth

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  13. Sera Michele

    Sera Michele Senior Member

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    Goth,

    men have men's clubs (and no I don't mean strip joints) where guys sit around and smoke cigars and talk about boring shit, so what the hell is wrong with curves?

    If you don't want your gender to be drafted take it up with the government, not women - we didn't pass the law. And I'm sure men don't want to be drafted any more than women do.

    I don't care for your sterotyping. There are no more women think men are sperm banks and wallets then men think women are just for sticking your dick in. In fact, history has shown us that women have tended to treat men better than men treat women.

    ANd I hate this BS I hear about feminism. Iron Goth thinks feminists want other's to do all the work, but other's come here and complain how feminists want to work jobs and don't like women being stay-at home mother's. So what is it? Do we want to work or don't we? Shit.

    I don't know how such a woman-hater can be so pissy about so called man-haters. A little hypocritical isn't it?
     
  14. Sera Michele

    Sera Michele Senior Member

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    WTF do you know about women, you're 15.

    Don't want a woman and kids? Don't have sex then. The men that think they can poke around where they want but be free of the consequences are foolish. And how is taking care of 3 children lazy?
     
  15. IronGoth

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    RE: men have men's clubs (and no I don't mean strip joints) where guys sit around and smoke cigars and talk about boring shit, so what the hell is wrong with curves?

    I can't legally keep you out of the former. But I can keep you out of the latter. What girls typically do is demand to join the former, then complain about the cigars and boring sh*t. Next thing you know it's a smoke-free place where we must discuss Oprah.

    RE: Iron Goth thinks feminists want other's to do all the work, but other's come here and complain how feminists want to work jobs

    And what jobs are these? Defending the country? Going down the coal mines? NOPE.
    They want to be the CEOs telling others to do that, AND they wanna be fast-tracked into it.
     
  16. Sera Michele

    Sera Michele Senior Member

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    Who is this scary "they" you are talking about. I don't know any women like that. I do, however, know women in the military. My sister works in a meat-packing plant, with no intentions of being an executive. My mother works in an automotive factory, and no, she is no executive. Join the real world, Goth. Come out of that woman-hating daze that is clouding your logic.

    There are assholes in every gender. It isn't like women have some sort of secret society where we plot how to make men miserable.
     
  17. Green

    Green Iconoclastic

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    WTF do you know about women, you're 15.- I'm 15, that must mean I have my head up my ass. No, it doesn't. You've been brainwashed.

    Don't want a woman and kids?- Sure I want a woman, just not one whos going to run my life.

    Don't have sex then.- Ok


    The men that think they can poke around where they want but be free of the consequences are foolish.- I wouldn't trust a woman to take her pill. I wouldn't pay child support without a blood test either.


    And how is taking care of 3 children lazy?- I'll admit that sentance was oxymoronic. Just go read the websites.

    Women are expected to have jobs and they also want to be breeders, so then they become stressed, and its just really messing up society.

    As a woman you either need to commit to a career and don't have any children or commit to having children, or you and your husband can adopt a child.
     
  18. Green

    Green Iconoclastic

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    The feminazis control the television, and some other things to some extent.

    Its everywhere, and you all are dubious to it.

    There are men who think that we should oppress women, and there are wife beaters, and then there are feminazis, and a bunch of people in the middle of this power struggle.
     
  19. Sera Michele

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    Ok, you are just crazy...

    You think us women feel empowered by the skinny-ass plastic women all over the TV? A real woman couldn't get a walk-on part on a telivision show or movie anymore. Feminists DO NOT control the TV, my god...
     
  20. Green

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    Ok, you are just crazy...- You'd say that.

    You think us women feel empowered by the skinny-ass plastic women all over the TV?- I don't think you feel empowered, but I know what they are feeling isn't something I want to know about.

    A real woman couldn't get a walk-on part on a telivision show or movie anymore.- Thats because society is fucked.


    Feminists DO NOT control the TV, my god...- Maybe your not looking at it correctly. There are commercials for skin products aimed at women, there are commercials for SUVs, there are commercials for T.V. like dinners. The Oprah show, most of these shows seem to be made by women for women. Then theres lifetime...
     

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