First time this summer...

Discussion in 'Salvia Divinorum' started by the_dude, Dec 27, 2004.

  1. the_dude

    the_dude Senior Member

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    im planing on ordering some of it this upcomming summer, since it will be my first time: any tips?
     
  2. Foppful

    Foppful Member

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    Depends on how much you wanna trip. Go with 10x standardized extract. Take a very small hit at first to see if you like the feel of it. Hold in for 20 seconds. Relax. Let everything come to you. Prepare to be in a very ackward, weird, intense state of mind. Expect to be blown away. Actually, you have no idea what you're in for, but have a sitter watching you. Good luck, try to have fun!
     
  3. redgreenvines

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    my tip is to get other kinds of experiences
    like swimming or
    biking
     
  4. the_dude

    the_dude Senior Member

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    i have a strong mind and im ordering some pretty light salvia. some standard kind or something, but im wondering, do i realy need a sitter?
    i mean, how intense can it become with just some low, standard, salvia?
     
  5. Hikaru Zero

    Hikaru Zero Sylvan Paladin

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    Use. A. Sitter.

    Don't just say "oh, how bad can it be?" I've read trip reports where people have said that, and then thought that they were dead, ripped into thousands of fragments, and put together again, slowly, over the course of what seemed to them like years. When they came to, 4 minutes had passed. Come to think of it ... let me dig out the link to that one in particular.

    http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=28562

    Warning: it's very long. =P But valuable.

    And until you are more experienced with salvia, make SURE you use a sitter. I use a sitter anytime I plan on smoking more than the 3rd level on the S-A-L-V-I-A scale.

    Also, read my posts on the "More first timer Q's" sticky on this board. There are a bunch of tips for exactly how to smoke it and what to do to have a good experience. =) And may Lady Sally guide your soul, friend!
     
  6. redgreenvines

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    salvia is not like other substances.
    the effect is very very light until it threasholds at level 4 regardless of the leaf type
    when it hits level 5 it does surprise and shock, and that takes only a teensy bit more than it takes to level 4, so you can hardly manage the dosage to one over the other.
    a very small additional amount goes to level 6 which is amnesiac.
    a sitter is important,
    and there are many other things to do as your brain is still growing, 14 is too young to be actively involved with entheogen.
     
  7. the_dude

    the_dude Senior Member

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    well you know... i was only going to try it one time, before it goes illegal or something, but i dont even know anyone else that are in to these kind of things and can be used as a sitter. i dont wanna take that risk, so maybe i'll not order some.
    to bad...if i had someone to sitt and keep an eye on me i would order but sense i do not know anyone ill just have to fuck it.
    man...id realy want to try it before it goes illegal...
     
  8. the_dude

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    well you know... i was only going to try it one time, before it goes illegal or something, but i dont even know anyone else that are in to these kind of things and can be used as a sitter. i dont wanna take that risk, so maybe i'll not order some.
    to bad...if i had someone to sitt and keep an eye on me i would order but sense i do not know anyone ill just have to fuck it.
    man...id realy want to try it before it goes illegal...

    and by the way, i dont think it can effect my brain that much if i only try it once...
    but, hey, i cant even do that because i dont know anyone to sit.
     
  9. the_dude

    the_dude Senior Member

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    im pretty experienced considering "panicky" situations. and i am pretty good at calming myself down.
     
  10. the_dude

    the_dude Senior Member

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    what would i do? i live in a fucking snowed in little place up in sweden. basicaly everyones up are real dumbasses. you can choose between two things to do up here: go out and drink lots of alchohol and taunt imigrants or you can sit home by the computer til your brain has died. i myself keep me in something in between.
    i do not sit by my computer and i do not drink and taunt ethnical groups.
    to live in my position can sometimes be very frustrating and i need something that can make me chill out.
    im allways, in the back of my head, worried or depressed over what a life im living. i know i shouldnt be.
    but its hard not to be, something that keep my mind of these things are light drugs.
     
  11. redgreenvines

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    get an illustrated book on Yoga - great thing for winter
    study nature - great thing for always.
    these things will serve you when you are
    at a better place and time.
    salvia is not going illegal amongst civilized countries. (australia is confused)
    the trip is too short and it can't be used to make people into whores and slaves.
     
  12. the_dude

    the_dude Senior Member

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    what are you talking about?
     
  13. Foppful

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    Salvia doesn't make you "chill out". It is NOT a light drug. It's intense, weird, mind blowing....

    In fact, it isn't recreational. It's way too intense and weird to be fun. Don't smoke salvia to try to escape from life's shitty rituals, it won't work.
     
  14. the_dude

    the_dude Senior Member

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    yeah, i know...i just wanted to try it one time. im not planing on using it allways as an escape but just try it, since ive heard so many good things...
     
  15. redgreenvines

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    I meant it is not recreational
     
  16. Hikaru Zero

    Hikaru Zero Sylvan Paladin

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    As far as salvia goes, the reason all these people are urging you to take great caution is because of how powerful salvia can be.

    Many salvia users and experienced psychonauts agree that salvia is one of the most powerful psychoactive substances known. It overwhelms the senses and renders thought processes completely useless, when used in the right amounts and settings.

    Salvia is rumoured to be up to 10 times more "powerful" than LSD. Now, I don't agree with this statement, but I do believe that salvia is at the very least a little more powerful. It's not as potent chemically, but unlike LSD, you cannot function at all in concensus reality when you're under the heavier effects of salvia.

    This is why we are being very cautious; we're concerned for the well being of you and others, and salvia isn't something that you should try just for the sake of trying it. It has a history of being used for healing and divination rituals, to gain enlightenment and lose the ego; all the people who try it "just to see what it does" are the ones who are going to end up getting it made illegal.

    We're concerned for keeping its legal status, but more importantly, we're concerned for you as well. You don't seem to have much research on salvia, and I've been doing constant research for the past 6 months, and I still am quite uncomfortable with the stronger voyages ...
     
  17. the_dude

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    yeah, i made up my mind for some time ago. it may come of as it, but i dont wanna try it for the sake of trying. i wanna discover more about who i realy am, i think it would be very enlightening, but sense im not in the capability of taking precausions, i wont do it. il just live my life and find other ways in exploring my mind...
     
  18. Foppful

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    Or you could try it when you're older. See how you feel in 4 years.
     
  19. the_dude

    the_dude Senior Member

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    i would be rather risky. i dont know anyone thats in to these kinds of things.
     
  20. TheLizardKingMike

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    I agree. Its not like anything else out there you definatley need to have a sitter and smoke with caution. Don't get more than 5x. It's quite possible to be the most intense trip. You could flip out very easy because you might not remember that you smoked salvia. It happens to me every time .Also you are too young. I know you won't listen to me but I told you so.
     

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