Fly agaric/amanita muscaria growing in my garden...

It's late summer here, just on the beginning of autumn/fall. I live out in the country, and my house is surrounded by all sorts of woodlandy trees and plants. I've always noticed the amanitas popping up, but I only became aware of their psychoactive qualities quite recently...and this year there's more than ever. The cap of one of them is larger than my handspan, it's massive. I would love to try them, having had quite a few excellent experiences with psilocybes, but I think I'm the only person I know of who has any thought of trying them. Everyone I've chatted to about it tells me that they're DETHLEE POYSNUSS and to stay away from them. From what I've read so far, they're not deadly but can be physically uncomfortable. So, is it worth me picking and preparing the metric fuckton of fly agarics growing rampant in my garden? How would I prepare them for least physical discomfort, and is there any way I can have any idea of dosage?

 

I've never tried them, but I know that amanita muscarias always grow next to birch or pine trees. There are relative amanitas that look similar and are highly toxic, they don't grow around these trees. As I've never taken them myself (with minimal research) I would suggest that you try to eat them on a stomach empty as possible. Also they should be completely dry. I've heard from a few people that smoking pot helps with the stomach discomfort.

Also from what I understand since the active chemical is muscimol in them, they are much different than eating any psilocybe mushrooms.

 

Well once you have positively identified them, because there are so many other amanitas that will kill you, i would definitely go for it. I wish i had amaniatas growing in my backyard, its on my list to try

 

my daughter just sent me these pics from new zealand. She wanted to know if these are the fairy tale mushrooms. Too many! :hat:

 

Yeah those look like them alot, just make sure you positively identify them though, but its easy to identify amanita muscaria's.

 

^ This one is the biggest I've found so far.

Would I do best to take the smaller ones or the larger ones? Also the older ones seem to have faded and cracked - I'm assuming the younger, healthier ones would be better?

 

Yeah, my girlfriend just got a whole bunch of these growing. So the amanita muscaria is totally not going to kill you? And these are the ones found near pine trees?

 

Those look tasty, dont even dry them, bend over and eat one right off the ground, if it's too much mushroom for you just peel the red skin off of a couple of caps and eat that, you're going to feel very weird, like you drank too much, dont drink anything except water for when the high burns off you are going to want to drink your urine for it will be rich in amatoxins purified by your body, if you want you can keep drinking your urine and trip out every day without a drop in potency or tolerance issues. Siberian shamans do it this way and keep themselves on a journey that could last months, even years off a single dose of amanitas.

there are very poisonous amanitas so be careful, usually pretty easy to tell though, except in times like it's a yellow muscaria that has had all the dots blown off by a heavy rain, yellow ones work just as fine as red ones, saw some in a mendo forest that were about a foot tall but still had round closed caps about the size golf balls.

 

Hmm...but after drinking your urine after so many times, the amonia levels will become toxic. Urea would also be greatly increased each time it is ingested.

You can only drink urine so many times before your body will reject it

 

I'd be really pissed then!

 

Why would you drink your urine? That's gross. There are more glamourous ways to get high.

 

...survival situations sometimes call for clean water. Your body carries a lot of clean water out into your piss.

I believe that the guy talking about drinking urine as something to get mind altering effects was simply stating one method of consuming Amanita muscaria

 

Pretty sure they have to be dry to lower toxin levels and raise muscimol levels.

 

how does drying turn ibotenic acid into muscimol?

 

The ibotenic acid carboxyls reach a certain temperature to remove themselves from the acid and become muscimol.

 

they are way more potent wet.

 

/shrugs. I've not experienced them yet, so you could be right. Just going by things I've read. I plan on giving them a whirl sometime.

 

sorta kinda.... but just drying doesn't create heat.

 

you're supposed to heat them in an open oven...I'm not quite sure at what temp or for how long. Relatively low, though...check erowid

 

Ive tried drying them in an oven, it's pretty nuts, when they heat up they spew out a murky black sludgy liquid that you need to spoon up and dump back on the mushies, you can also dry it out, scrape it up and smoke it. The process smells pretty knarley and in my opinion doesn't do much for the high.

You can smoke them for a subtle buzz that is nice for when you have shit to do, and for some reason these things make you salivate like a rabid dog, when smoked in combination with ganja you dont get cotton mouth.