fransisco

what the heck are you talking about. please explain. are you a troll? or are you serious?

 

Proverbs 26:4-12
4Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.
5Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.
6He that sendeth a message by the hand of a fool cutteth off the feet, and drinketh damage.
7The legs of the lame are not equal: so is a parable in the mouth of fools.
8As he that bindeth a stone in a sling, so is he that giveth honour to a fool.
9As a thorn goeth up into the hand of a drunkard, so is a parable in the mouths of fools.
10The great God that formed all things both rewardeth the fool, and rewardeth transgressors.
11As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly.
12Seest thou a man wise in his own conceit? there is more hope of a fool than of him.

 

"The Way to The Truth of The Life"!

the religious systems of this world, especially pagan "christianity"
have so perverted the Teachings of One called The Messiah,
that "The Way of Truth is evil spoken of".......

this temporal portion of Life is very serious indeed.......

and while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

hope that many would quit "playing games" and "see" that they are
but serving "time" in the prison that is this wicked world(babylon).

hope that they would receive of Our Father, HE WHO is
"The ONLY TRUE GOD, Father of ALL".......

game players always lose.......period.......

there has been only one true winner that drew a breath, and He,
The Son of The ONLY TRUE GOD, did not play games.......

The Messiah, He who revealed "The Way to The Truth of The Life"
both in His teachings and Life example....... "winners" follow Him.

and "The Way to The Truth of The Life"?

simply, "Father, not my will, But THY Will Be Done"!

peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francisco
http://ASpiritualJourney.Org

 

while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

hope that those words, that now abide only in your mind, would somehow
find a place in your heart.......

"if you believe all things are possilbe"!

Miracles are Real! They Are Forever!

peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francisco

 

F & LG,

Maybe you should both use the PM system to work out your differences. As an exercise being watched by the rest of the community, I implore both parties to be civil. I think it is just a difference of opinion and that ultimately both parties will come to an understanding of the other. Just don't let this explode into a flame war, whereby each calls the other "troll".

 

5Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.

 

chapter and verse so easy to quote, yet when quoted from the mind, rather
than the heart, those words but remain:

"colored marks written on a dead tree":-((((((

 

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Whatever Eeyore.

 

"bible" chapter and verse is so easy to quote, yet when quoted from the mind, rather
than the heart of experience, those words but remain:

"colored marks written on a dead tree":-((((((

 

Richard Feynman:

As the lecture hall was full, he started out by defining science as an understanding of the behavior of nature. Then he asked, “What is a good reason for teaching science?, allowing of course, that no country can consider itself civilized unless…

Then he stated that, “The main purpose of my talk is to demonstrate to you that NO science is being taught in Brazil!”

He went on to point out that he was very excited upon arriving in Brazil, that he noticed so many young elementary school students were buying books on physics, as they do not teach physics to young children in the United States. However, the reason he found that amazing was that you do not find many physicists in Brazil…and he was wondering…Why is that? So many kids are working so hard and nothing comes of it.

Then he held up the elementary physics textbook they were using. “There are no experimental results mentioned anywhere in this book, except in one place where there is a ball, rolling down an inclined plane, in which it says how far the ball got after one second, two seconds, three seconds, and so on. The numbers have ‘errors’ in them--- that is if you look at them, you think you’re looking at experimental results, because the numbers are a little above, or a little below, the theoretical values. The book even talks about having to correct the experimental errors---very fine. The trouble is, when you calculate the value of the acceleration constant from these values, you get the right answer. But a ball rolling down an inclined plane, if it is actually done, has an inertia to get it to turn, and will if you do the experiment, produce five-sevenths of the right answer, because of the extra energy needed to go into the rotation of the ball. Therefore, this single example of experimental ‘results’ is obtained from a fake experiment. Nobody had rolled such a ball, or they would never have gotten those results.

“I have discovered something else,” he continued. “By flipping the pages at random, and putting my finger in and reading the sentences on that page, I can show you what’s the matter---how it’s not science, but memorizing, in every circumstance.”

…another example…he stuck his finger in and began to read: “Triboluminescence. Triboluminescence is the light emitted when crystals are crushed…” … ”and there, have you got science? NO! You have only told what a word means in terms of other words. You haven’t told anything about nature---what crystals produce light when you crush them, why they produce light. Did you see any student go home and try it? He can’t.

“But if, instead, you were to write, ‘When you take a lump of sugar and crush it with a pair of pliers in the dark, you can see a bluish flash. Some other crystals do that too. Nobody knows why. The phenomenon is called “triboluminescence.” Then someone will go home and try it. Then there’s an experience of nature.”

 

double post...
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experience, yes........ and "the natural man"?

"the natural, nonspiritual man does not accept or welcome or admit into his heart the gifts and teachings and revelations of the Spirit of The ONLY TRUE GOD, for they are folly (meaningless nonsense) to him; and he is incapable of knowing them [of progressively recognizing, understanding, and becoming better acquainted with them] because they are spiritually discerned and estimated and appreciated.

experience is The Teacher indeed.......

would hope that one day, you would "receive a love of The Truth" so that you
might "experience The Messiah and The Power that resurrected Him".......

Miracles are Real, and that which is Real is Forever.......

natural science? temporal, earthly, here today, gone tomorrow along
with all who believe in "science, falsely so-called".......

Faith rejoices against all that is of the natural "senses".......

peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francis

 

The things of the "natural" world can be experienced and appreciated in a spiritual way. Even the feelings of hunger and pain have significance for they are guidance from our God.

I do love the truth. The truth is beautiful and mellows me with age.

Natural science describes the way God behaves in a 'physical' manner. Just another of the wonderful beautiful qualities of our God. Of course, God will not force you to enjoy something that you reject, but if you repent of your pride and except the natural as well as the spiritual God can bring you greatness in both worlds (which are one).

Does it not also embrace the understanding that it gains through 'natural' senses?

 

once again, "the natural, nonspiritual man does not accept or welcome or
admit into his heart the gifts and teachings and revelations of the Spirit of
The ONLY TRUE GOD, for they are folly (meaningless nonsense) to him; and
he is incapable of knowing them [of progressively recognizing, understanding,
and becoming better acquainted with them] because they are spiritually
discerned and estimated and appreciated.

right out of "the god of this world's" mouth, he who is the "father of lies"!
and you say "you love the truth":-((((((

clear your "natural senses" hold you captive!

all one has to do is review the postings you have made to "see" that.

temporal, natural, that is your choice, as for me i have chosen that which is
Eternal, Spiritual, my desire is to be where The Father of ALL abides, and
while tarrying here i choose to serve HIM, to seek HIS Will for The Life HE
has given me.

sad for you:-((((((

yet, while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

and hope is not just a four letter word, hope is Alive for true hope
has experienced that "all things are possible if one believes".......

and if one does not believe?

peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francis

 

You are completely wrong. The most natural thing for a man to do is to love God.

Of course. God kicks ass.

Yeah. I love it. It's pretty cool, although sometimes I get bitchy.

Yeah, all my senses, even those that are spiritual, are natural. What is more natural than God?

Really? Then you should support it for it is God's choice. This is were we are, is it not?

God is with us. Read Matthew 13:13-16. Don't give me any of your dead tree bullshit either. My heart and mind reside fully within God, so I am not interested in your bullshit about dead trees, or the lack of connection between the heart and the mind. If your heart understands these verses, you can turn to God and be healed.

 

sad for you:-((((((

your own words judge you khar.......

there is a "god" with you khar, hope is you might be set free from such
a lying spirit.......

peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francis

 

You say this every time I am right. You have a wierd way of acknowledging the truth.

You are a liar Francisco. You constantly lie and decieve, even when you speak the truth, for you twist the truth into lies. You are very good at twisting the truth into something it is not, perhaps the best I have meet.

Love you!

 

have you ever considered that what you write to me
is actually the cry of your own heart revealing itself
and expressing your need.......

peace, even as war(spiritual) rages....... francis

 

To expose the flaws in what you say in the hopes of making you a better soul? Yes. That is exactly what I am doing.

With love, Khar