FUCK! Need help with 2c-i liquid dosing, PLEASE.

So I fucked up, I know that. I just got a gram of c-i, and thought I was going to have a scale, so I dosed twice, once with a friend, so 3 doses have been taken out of my gram. I just found out that the dumbass decided not to get the scale, leaving me in an obnoxious position. I'm going to try to liquid dose this now I think. How much c-i can be dissolved per mL in regular filtered tap water? I'm going to treat the ammount I have left like 900mgs, because I don't really think that I took over 100mgs between the three doses. I guess it's POSSIBLE, but not very probable. Also, this means I'll have slightly stronger than 20mg doses, so yay for that. I'm guessing that 900mgs is pretty accurate though. How much liquid should I use to dissolve this 900mgs? I was thinking like 300mLs, or even maybe like 225mLs, giving me a 3mg/ml, or a 4mg/mL concentration. I'm thinking I like the 225mL idea more, any thoughts or suggestions?

By the way, please don't post just to bitch at me about a scale. I know I fucked up, but that can't be helped right now. Now I just need solutions to this problem, thanks.

 

Nevermind, ~900mgs will def dissolve. That was a stupid mistake though, I can't beleive that happened.

Anyways, what's oral dosing like compared to snorting it? Duration/intensity/anything else worth noting? Thanks

 

I always do 1mg per 1mL for simplicity, but you can use less water if you want, like 10-15mg per mL. You need to use distilled water though. Oh and I only dose oral so I cant comment on the differences.

 

What about water that comes from a refridgorator filter? Or would bottled water work maybe?

 

Ideally the type of water you would want is distilled/deionized water. That has a pH of perfect 7 and lacks not only the tap impurities but also the ions H3O+ and OH- that can ever-so-subtly change the waters reactive properties. Most bottled water brands or home filters don't/can't account for ions. But because 2c-i is a phenethylamine and those are known to be extremely stable I would assume you would be ok to store it in something like what you mentioned above. I have nothing to base this on besides some admittedly very novice chem knowledge tho.

The differences from insufflation to oral aren't overly significant. With liquid oral it takes between 30 minutes and 1:30 minutes to fully peak depending on what's in your stomach so be sure to be patient and not redose hastily. It also takes a larger amount of substance for similar effects as insufflation. Roughly an nasal: oral dose ratio is 1: 1.3 imo. But you don't seem to have measured out doses when taking it nasally it might be good idea not to go higher than your past with an oral dose straight off. Could be difficult to gauge. Stay safe!

 

don't use tap water.
at least get distilled.

you can get a scale for $23 online.

 

I was going to get that one, like splitting the cost with someone but they bailed. I don't have a job, and am pretty much literaly broke right now. I'm just gonna go with 225mLs of my filtered fridge water I think. How long does oral dosing this last? Nasally, I only tripped for like an hour or two tops before I was pretty much sober. I've heard waaay diffrent duration estimates though, up to 6 or 8 hours even. True, or false?

 

dude! your filtered fridge water is not good to use. it still has chlorine and other ions that might react with the 2ci. maybe not, i know PEAs are supposedly pretty stable. but we all know that chlorine in tap water degrades LSD, so i wouldn't take a chance. a gallon of distilled water is ~$1

 

Too late....


Whatever though, does it degrade it hella fast? I'm not about to have this for a long ass time or anything...

 

nah, i wasn't too late. i told you at 9:30 this morning, and neuro told you 10:30 last night. seems like you just choose to ignore sound advice

 

I didn't see that till just now after I did it. Did I just waste it all? Or will it be fine for a little while still?

 

you wasted it ALL

 

I really hope your just kidding... I have trouble beleiving that 900mgs of 2c-I was just rendered completely usless because I used fridge water. You are joking, right? I mean, I could see it possssibly degrading a bit over time, but it's not about to neutralize it all or anything, right? And even if it were to do that, ittud take some time probably, right? Be serious with me for a sec dude, this is a big deal...

 

you better just drink it all right now, so it doesn't degrade over time



yeah, i was kidding. it's probably fine, at least for awhile

 

Yeah, it should be ok for a lil while. Maybe keep it in the fridge? Idk if that would help but it wouldn't hurt.

 

You scared me there... But that's a relief. I'm going to chech my filter, because I think it's an ionic one actually, would that be good?

How long should this last by the way, a month or so maybe? Assume it's not really fridgorated and my water was pretty pure.

 

any answer you get is likely to be a guess

2cxs are stable for years as dry powders at room temp
most people if they want to store it as a solution, make one from distilled water.

it'll probably be good for a year or more

 

Would sanitized saline solution be good or do you think the sodium chloride would effect anything? I've been wondering this for a while.

 

sodium chloride dissociates in water to sodium and chlorine ions, so if chlorine is no good, salt is no good. distilled water is not hard to get people

 

So what you're saying is if you drank undistilled water during the day and you dose it'll effect it in your stomach?