Gender transition

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by antithesis, Oct 16, 2010.

  1. TipsyGypsy

    TipsyGypsy Light of a Fading Star

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    She needs to do what's right for her, I think. It will be a shock for people, but if that's how she feels, then that's how she feels.
     
  2. The Imaginary Being

    The Imaginary Being PAIN IN ASS Lifetime Supporter

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    What about had I told you I wanted to murder people, should I be allowed to murder people?

    If she desired to become a man, because you have to had wanted this for a lifetime for validity, then she shouldn't have had children.

    You have to reap the seeds that you sow, i'm afraid.
     
  3. TipsyGypsy

    TipsyGypsy Light of a Fading Star

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    Oh come on, murdering people is not even comparable.

    Having children doesn't mean your life should have to stop completely. It doesn't mean you have to deny who you are for the rest of your life. It will be a big shock and a big change, but it won't make her any less of a parent.

    People feel they can deny things like this, because it's not 'normal', or isn't 'right' and will upset too many people, but one day things might just get too much. It's like religion suppressing gay people, who marry and have children - they will always be gay and shouldn't have to hide that.

    Would you be happy knowing your mother has to hide who she really is?
     
  4. daisymae

    daisymae Senior Member

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    People who hide it this long usually think they can control it and make it go away.

    You assume she's married. ;)
    If she is, that will likely be over. I have a friend whose husband did that. "Honey, I'm gay, it's over."
     
  5. lynzxx

    lynzxx Senior Member

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    i'm confused on this one..... she should be able to do what she wants.
    but i do feel bad for the kids!.. like, if i was that age, and then when i grew up into my teenage years, and kids caught wind that my emmm second dad? used to be my mother.. I'd be ripped to shreds by every other kid!!!!!!... so i feel a bit bad for them really.
     
  6. The Imaginary Being

    The Imaginary Being PAIN IN ASS Lifetime Supporter

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    yeah, my mistake. I misread something. I understand that if a person wants to do this then that's fair enough

    but I agree with Lynz :)hurray: I got it right!!), I just feel bad for the kids.
     
  7. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    I agree with all this, but would add that it may screw up her kids.
     
  8. TipsyGypsy

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    Anything could screw up her kids. They can't be wrapped up in cotton wool.
     
  9. The Imaginary Being

    The Imaginary Being PAIN IN ASS Lifetime Supporter

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    you make perfect sense, I should feel the same way. But FIVE is a large number of children to have before you decide you want to change your sex. I wish her all the best, and hope it works out nonetheless.
     
  10. creedlespeek

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    Part of me feels like you do. However, GID patients are at a high risk of suicide, especially if they don't transition. The kids are better off to lose a mother and gain a father than to just lose a mother.
     
  11. Monkey Boy

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    The kids may get a little confused, but as long as she/he loves them and is there for them that's the main thing.
     
  12. thedope

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    Girl gets shafted
     
  13. lynzxx

    lynzxx Senior Member

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    :party::party::D
     
  14. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    "Mommy, I have a splinter, can you take it out?"

    "Son, I told you, it's daddy now. My name is daddy."

    "What do I call daddy then?"

    "We're both daddy. Daddy #1 and daddy #2."

    "Where'd mommy go?"

    "I was mommy, but I had my appearance changed."

    "Why?"

    "Because I wanted to be a man."

    "Why?"

    "Because I didn't feel like a woman anymore."



    Don't get me wrong, I'm all for people doing whatever they want. But this is a little different from the usual things people do that screw up their kids. This isn't like running over the cat or fighting in front of your kids. And I'm not even saying that it will or does screw up kids. I don't know anyone who has a parent who had a sex change. I'm just assuming that it would and could.
     
  15. Heat

    Heat Smile, it's contagious! :) Lifetime Supporter

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    Exactly. People in general first see the sexual side and not that it is an emotional issue. That someone feels that they are the wrong gender is not necessarily a sexual feeling at all, it is a total life decision.

    The requirements for making a change are very controlled. It is not something that is decided on a whim nor is it something that treatment for is immediate.

    *an aside*
    As far as children and maternal feelings what ever type of parent this person is and was is not changing. If she was nurturing, loving and caring she will remain the same way with her kids.

    Society tends to very much downplay the emotional bond between infants/children and male roles. Perhaps that is where the stereotype comes in that women are more maternal and nurturing. I personally have seen more than one male raise their children and they managed to bring and drag them up just like any woman I know.

    The children will be alright if she is alright. They require love, care and nurturing that is not gender specific. They learn coping and life from those who raise them regardless of gender.

    If she was and is a good parent that is not changing.
     
  16. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    The kids will be fine, kids are the most accepting people anyways, they don't are what gender you are as long as you either love them/give them stuff. Besides it's not she's going to shoot up testosterone then become ripped with muscles and chiseled facial hair in 48 hours, it's a process that takes time.
     
  17. antithesis

    antithesis Hello

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    Exactly... the adults can just deal with it, but I do worry about the kids. That is a big thing for them to deal with and they already have all these health problems and I don't want the stress to make that worse.
     
  18. antithesis

    antithesis Hello

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    That sounds nice, but I don't really believe it to be honest. I'm pretty sure that when I was 7 if my mom had turned into a man I would be feel pretty damn confused and really stressed out.

    And she said the doctor said it would take 6 months, which really isn't that long (apparently she is also getting a penis, though I don't really know how that works...)
     
  19. antithesis

    antithesis Hello

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    Actually she is married and the husband is into it... apparently he decided that he is gay.
     
  20. antithesis

    antithesis Hello

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    Sorry for all these posts, but I wanted to reply to people :)

    Anyway, this is kind of my thinking. The youngest is only a couple years old and it seems like she obviously would have had these feelings then... I really just don't understand.
     
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