Getting more experience! Salvia How-To questions?

As I increase the amount I am physically smoking, and the amount I get inside myself I am realizing that the one thing that is holding me back, which is my fear of going too far while upright. I barely made it over 1/2 of the way through my last salvia cig and I started to feel the effects overtaking me already. Mostly my fear of something happening to me while I'm out in the sub-zero temps on the balcony of my 2nd floor apartment keeps me held back from getting a full(er) experience, and again rightly so, if nothing else for my own personal safety.

SO, anyway, this time it was more vivid than any of my 1/2 dozen or so other trips. I immediately sat down on my couch and attempted to remove my coat. As I unzipped it I was overtaken by my coat's zipper, which seemed to be attempting to zip me into it as I was unzipping it. I wanted to call out for help, but I couldn't make any noise come out of my lips; it was a little scary. BUT, then I began to see orange and blue clock hands, words from books and other unknown objects all flying through the top 1/2 of the room and flowing into the clock I have on the wall, which had no hands or numbers and was a dark color....
Needless to say about 10 or 15 minutes later it was all over and I was back to normal.

My question is HOW do I get my hallucinations to last longer or be more vivid? Will I pretty much have to wait until I am at a friends house where I can smoke it indoors to "let myself go" and not hold back?
Will chewing or quidding a large quantity of leaves have a longer lasting or more intense effect?:afro:

And thanks again from your fellow humble space traveler

 

well rolling cigarettes isnt the best way to smoke salvia at all. Try smoking it out of a bowl, or better yet a bong of some sorts.

And i dont remember did you say if you were holding it in? I always read and would say that it is the only way to really get it in you.(many people i saw smoke it wouldnt and always complained it didnt work) Try holding each hit for 20-30- seconds.. though the effect may hit you much faster,, I used to have trouble puttin down the pipe sometimes so be careful on the deck..lol

 

Oh, it worked!

 

can i add to this post about my own question of salvia. ive smoked salvia a few times before and a few different kinds each time was out of a bowl and I held it for roughly about 20 to 25 seconds. I have even ripped a whole half gram in one go but all i got was a body high could i be imune ect.

 

That's about all I get, sometimes visuals, but usually just CRAZY high!
I do smoke it in a very "unconventional" way, though...

 

Apparently there are some people who are "immune" to the effects of Salvia. Or at least they don't experience the same kinds of effects a most other people. Some people also experience a hind of "sensitization" to Salvia, and so it takes several sessions to be able to reach the desired effect. But you said you've tried it a few times so I dunno. I'd say keep on trying if you've got the money. If nothing comes of it, then that's just too bad, man!

 

yeah well i dont seem to get the effects of dmt also any clue there

 

if you get a good rip out of a bong you won't have time to say 'i should only smoke half of this cig'

really smoking salvia joints is a pretty ineffective way to smoke salvia. water pipes work the best.

you are going to want to load up the bowl on your bong, torch it all, and then inhale deeply and hold it in for 20+ seconds. this is by far the most effective technique for blasting off. since you are torching the whole bowl, i usually only load in 1 hit at a time.

being out on your porch doesn't really seem like a very good enviroment either. a place where there are minimal distractions is going to bring out the effects of salvia much better.

though, traditionally salvia is eaten in a quid, and according to mazatec shaman tradition smoking salvia is a bad idea because it angers the spirit of the herb, "ska maria pastora" - the sherperdess of the leaves. you should really do some research into this.

 

Salvia joints lol. If you can still hold the joint after 3 big drags, go ahead and try it. In my experience, you wont be able to.. My last salvia trip had me being pulled down to the left and right. Like a spirit was telling me "GET UP!". I see things that aren't there, but I often wonder if its my body making it up. My first time, I saw acrobats on my ceiling, I think..

Advice for salvia: You can't tell salvia to obey you, you submit yourself to it. Best advice about salvia I've heard on this forum.

 

Exactly, and also the best way to know salvia is to not know anything at all during the trip. Feel, don't think, only then will true navigation of the ethereal cosmos will occur.

And you can practice "not thinking" during sober life, when watching TV or something, by this I mean letting go of knowing or believing whats right or worng and just take in the data that comes at you, and try to bring that into your next trip.:2thumbsup: This is called true NOSIS. This is not an absolute, its just my opinion.:love:

 

People talk about smoking salvia angering the spirit of this plant and as odd as that may sound it certainly seems to fit my experience of it. Very strange. I personally wouldn't recommend it to anyone. Beware