Globalisation: Bringing the world closer together, but tearing tradition apart

Discussion in 'Globalization' started by gelo, Jul 24, 2005.

  1. gelo

    gelo Member

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    I am making a short documentary on the topic "Globalisation: Bringing the world closer together, but tearing tradition apart."

    I came upon this forum and thought it'd be a good place to ask for opinions on the subject.

    If you have something to say about this, just post. The more opinions the merrier.

    Thanks in advance.
     
  2. Major Peacenik

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    You might tackle this facet:

    The trend in America is that pop culture is replacing culture. Will this movement spread to other areas of civilization, stay in the West, or be re-replaced by actual culture?

    I would be interested to see your finished documentary.
     
  3. bohemianchild

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    Grrr the McDonaldisation of the world -it'll be the death of us!
    Globalisation bringing the world together is no longer a good thing, it's the exact reason why the muslim terrorists hate the west, they dont want western values to infiltrate their religion. I hate that term 'global village' -God made the earth with oceans between countries for a reason i reckon. (yes i know they started off joined)
     
  4. gelo

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    Wow. REALLY good points. Those are going in for sure.

    Anyone else with their opinions?
     
  5. Eugene

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    Tradition, broadly speaking, is just doing the same dumb shit your grand parents did. I hate to break it to y'all but the natives in the amazon basin don't like shitting in the forests and living in communal huts, you'd be surprised how well indoor plumbing, or for that matter, indoors, goes over down there.
    Why do y'all want to be so islolationist? do you want another dark ages?
     
  6. Eugene

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    Al Qadia does most of it's recruiting in-house. That means that the muslims who don't like our western culture, but have decided to live in it are the ones we are fighting.
    Oh, and the fact that a bunch of sick fuck clerics are losing their power and trying anything they can to hold onto it probably enters into the picture...
     
  7. gelo

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    Thanks Eugene. Anyone else?
     
  8. ChanginTimes

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  9. ChanginTimes

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    "Why do y'all want to be so islolationist? do you want another dark ages?"

    Um...hahaha, I think it's funny how you use the White House's and CNN's talking points to make "your own" point. I hardly think that anyone here is talking about isolationism, much less moving into another dark age. Actually I'd argue that Cheney and Co. are the ones who are attempting to bring about another "dark ages". Only theirs would be global in nature. As for preserving traditional culture...you can have whatever opinion you like about it. But what we're talking about here is the issue of COERCION. The forcing of a culture to relinquish its own existance for the domination (total control) of the corporate global elite, which obviously seeks to gain more for its own. The idea of prosperity begins and ends with those who are ALREADY prosperous. It does nothing for the poor and working class except make them poorer.

    Research PNAC (Project for the New American Century). The neo-cons ADMIT it.

    www.pnac.info/

    Gelo, for a concise read on how corporate globalisation operates, check out David Korten's "When Corporations Rule the World". Scary title huh? Read it...it lays it out better than anyone here could.
     
  10. gelo

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    Thanks alot man!
     
  11. Eugene

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    I haven't watched Cnn in months, so i don't know what the hell you are talking about. But, wanting to stop international trade is isolationism, and who really gives a fuck about tradition and culture?
     
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    ''I hate to break it to y'all but the natives in the amazon basin don't like shitting in the forests and living in communal huts''
    there are many tribes which know about the industrialy develpoed 'outside'. and compleatly shun any contact whatsoever with it. I can only describe your thoughts as nieve and foolish. For a start as someone else has said these are exactly the sort of people which globilised capitalism preys on. Which in the Amazon takes the viscious form of lawless salvery.
     
  13. ChanginTimes

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    "and who really gives a fuck about tradition and culture?"

    Not idiotic boneheads like yourself, apparently. But many of us do...and so much so, that they will fight to preserve it.

    Bitch.
     
  14. monarch

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    Tradition and culture change. pop culture has not replaced culture. culture has become pop culture.
     
  15. Megara

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    wow, someone else gets it!
     
  16. Eugene

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    But culture is a living breathing thing, it is constantly changing. Hell, if it were up to you guys marco polo would have stayed home and we'd still be without spaghetti and toilet paper.
     
  17. monarch

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    LOL

    i agree totally, culture changes and there's no point to stopping it. however, conservatives do play a role in keeping the rate of change in check. they're fighting a losing battle, but they're important members of society because of this slowing effect.

    but yeah, they tend to go overboard -_-"

    we need a libertarian state!
     
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    1. You think that third-world workers are being "exploited" by Western companies who provide them with jobs (often with wages well above the market value). Yet the statistics would disagree with you. The third-world nations that allow themselves to be "exploited" the most (China, India, and Southeast Asia) have some of the most vibrant economies in the world and are raising their standards of living at breathtakingly fast rates. Meanwhile, the third-world countries that have shunned "exploitation" (North Korea and much of Sub-Saharan Africa) have some of the worst economies in the world, where standards of living are stagnating or even getting worse.

    2. As other people have said, culture changes all the time. Why is it a bad thing that differing cultures spread around the globe and compete with one another in the marketplace of ideas and values? Some things just work better than others. If an American value works better than an Asian value or vice versa, who gives a shit if it "tears tradition apart"? If people change a long-standing tradition, they've obviously decided they've found something better.
     
  19. monarch

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    i completely agree. ive lived in india for the first fourteen years of my life (im seventeen now) and let me tell you, globalization has done nothing but make life better for everyone involved... well, everyone who was rich, anyway, but thats besides the point since i was rich and the other people werent, yes im just an elitist fucktard like that *shrugs*
    and yeah, if some values work better than others, thats great, yknow? but the problem is, the value systems of economically stronger nations aka america seem to be transferred more easily to nations weaker in that aspect aka third-world nations, rather than vice versa. and, i speak from admittedly completely a priori knowledge, the rate of cultural exchange seems to be interconnected with the rate of globalization, and we cant have the rate of change too high, or there's going to be problems and friction.

    but fuck all that, we're all hedonist arses anyway, even those admittedly 'conservative' and 'republican,' if not especially these people.

    its like what hitler believed, why cant we all just get along (under my system of values). sniffle.
     
  20. ChanginTimes

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    Many of us, buddy. Many of us. But not only that, we seek progress as well. But the type of progress we want does not involved national I.D. cards and totalitarian rule.

    Oh, and CNN was just an example. I could have said FOX, CBS, NBC, etc. I'm sorry I didn't spell that out for you.
     

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