God can't break a condom?

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by Deleted member 17362, Apr 19, 2005.

  1. Just what the subject says, the catholic church has the stance that condoms are wrong because sex is for procreation and to stop something god wants to happen is wrong, but

    GOD CREATED THE UNIVERSE

    condoms are only like 98% effective, I bet vegas would give god pretty good odds

    CREATOR OF UNIVERSE VS. LITTLE LATEX MEMBRANE!

    yeah that's screwed up

    and free will doesn't even come into this (I've heard that argument come on people)

    I'm angry tonight and something like 15 people died or contracted aids while I wrote this so if it seems a little full of indignation

    it is...
     
  2. Mononucleosis

    Mononucleosis Member

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    Course God can break a condom... I'm a condom/BC baby. I think that'd be breaking the condom.
     
  3. mhr

    mhr Member

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    Well too bad because you are going to hear it again. This is the exact argument that applies.

    We have free will to accept his way or not accept his way.

    The same thing could be said for why doesn't God cure aids, or stop a person who is about to kill someone. He doesn't interfere.

    How many answers are you going to dismiss? I guess until you hear what you want huh?
     
  4. ryupower

    ryupower NO capcom included

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    Condoms aren't wrong!

    There's no verse to back this up! Ditto to the pill. ;)
     
  5. Burbot

    Burbot Dig my burdei

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    acctualy many of the anti-birthcontrollers use the "every seed is sacred" thing, if it even exists
     
  6. B.S. if god wanted someone born he'd just say hey lookie 1% error ratio, likewise if he meant for someone to get aids or anything else, lookie 1%

    The catholic church believes miracles happen, that's how saints come in to being (2 miracle minimum) so why don't they believe god, who could turn them to plasma with less than a word, there isn't a margin of error if I cut you to bits (not that god couldn't make you whole) it's just that god works in the margins, he has since the new testament, a girl merely sleeping and not dead, the margins, and probability is where the margins lie, don't catholics have enough faith in their god to believe that he can defeat laytex, I know protestants do.
     
  7. MrRee

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    Human being is being human. This involves all manner of pleasure and pain, and everything in-between. The divine creative principle enabled our pleasures and pains, through which we experience the space-time spectrum of life experience. There is no right or wrong. There simply is, although we've become accustomed to work toward pleasure and away from pain (at least most of us!). But hey! whatever turns you on, turns you on, which must be "God's" (divine creative principle's) way. Using the old "satan" excuse for bad things simply implies that satan is stronger than god in undermining God's power, and if that's the truth, most people are sucking to the wrong dude! Saying that sex is not for pleasure flies in the face of our entire construct anatomically, physiologically, psychologically, emotionally, naturally and experientially.
     
  8. Baby Fire-fly

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    Would god prefur to see young girls get pregnant, kicked out of home, have a miscarrige and die from loss of blood? Some girls go through absolute hell because of it and go insane! Why?

    Because there are a bunch of people going on about how things like abortions, condoms and shit are the devil and the emence guilt which is laid upon gets to them and they end up feeling worse and worse, some cant even go on with their normals live because of this pressure....

    Why cant we all just mind our own business.... what your beliefs are may not be somebody elses... if somebody thinks it wrong to use condoms, well fuck off and you wait till you get married and have sex, dont try and make other people feel bad just because of your veiw.... and vise versa, if people dont believe in that, dont bag out ppl that do.....
     
  9. jim_w

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    quest, you really need to stop and think about what you are saying. "why doesn't god just break the condom" is exactly the same as saying "why doesn't god just fix AIDS" or whatever. In the nicest possible way: you are proving nothing but your ignorance of philosophy/theology. Read a book then post again.

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    Why cant we all just mind our own business.... what your beliefs are may not be somebody elses... if somebody thinks it wrong to use condoms, well fuck off and you wait till you get married and have sex, dont try and make other people feel bad just because of your veiw.... and vise versa, if people dont believe in that, dont bag out ppl that do.....
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    i don't think many catholics actively go out and impose their morals on others. Any that do are not being very christian, in my view. Telling people your veiw is one thing; 'imposing' catholic morals on someone is quite another!
     
  10. Baby Fire-fly

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    They are out there trust me... and no i dont think it is very christian to do it iether, but i guess that think they are doing what god would do if he was there talking to me....
     
  11. mhr

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    This is really funny!

    A non Christian asks a Christian a question (Say that 5 times fast) and then another non Christian comes around and tells the Christian to quit preaching their bible.

    What am I missing? If somebody asks a question.... KNOCK KNOCK... "WE ANSWER IT!!!" DUH!!!!

    Pretty much typical though. If they don't hear what they want they tell them to shut up.

    I hear you Jim_w. I think Quest is just trying to ruffle feathers with his utter nonsense. What many non Christians fail to understand is that the more Christians are confronted with questions about our faith, the stronger our faith becomes.
     
  12. jim_w

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    Heh yeah. I remember in RE lessons at school, I thought I was being *so* clever by poking holes in the ontological argument. *shakes head*
     
  13. I pointed out in my second post that god works in the margins of error, aids isn't a margin of error, thar was extreme, aids is a blight, we deserve it, b ut crap at least let people who are willing to think a little and perhaps have a bit of a lack of self control take another road, go ahead and preach the bible, but find me some verses that say thet birth control is wrong (not that non marital sex is wrong, Birth control)

    Yes birth control encourages some less than positive things, but in places like the village in africa where africa started (the true case zero) where local infection rates are 98 percent and the catholic church is right the hell there telling these people not to use condoms you have to ask where our priorities are, a religion or a political agenda? Thinking that telling people they can't use birth control is certainly not going to stop extra-marital sex either

    1. people aren't that smart
    2. even if they were people are evil by nature, it's an inherent thing, we screw up so easily even though we have to choose to do good, and people don't choose to good near enough


    Btw I am a christian, not a fundy christian but a christian, Ihave read the bible and know a good bit about it and the trendy intrepretations of it that help people who believe going to sunday service every week will get them into heaven sleep at night, I suppose that last fragment told you what I think of them...
     
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