Was my 19th birthday on saturday and i woke up with a bag of 20x salvia in my pocket that i got on th way home from the bar. Should I smoke it? I have never done anything other than weed and I'm scared too.
go to the salvia threads. I'll say that salvia's like peyote..it's not really a 'recreational' drug, like ecstasy or acid. It's more of a mind opener....Read that forum, and think about it, know what you might expect, that sorta thing. Good luck, and I hope Sally likes you....if not...just remember 'it's just a trip. I'll be fine in 20 minutes.'
whatever you do don't do it alone though it's worth a try although you probably won't like it much...
Send it to me if you dont want it! The only place i can buy it iz 2 hours away and i dont drive =[ And ive been wanting salvia!
I did salvia once and it was interesting. I was in a dark living room with a good friend of mine as a sitter. I took a huge bong rip of it held it for as long as I could. I exhaled it and layed down on the couch. Then I felt like I was having a series of really short dreams but I was concious. I would be in one dream for what felt like maybey 20 seconds and then I would just sort of fall through the floor of that one immediately into another one. But I was concious enough to respond to my buddy and tell him things that I was seeing. But for the most part all I would say to him was "I'll tell you about this when its over" Then I came through after about 5 min or so and had a somewhat euphoric feeling going for a while. Basically it put me into a dreamlike state when I was awake. Overall it was okay, not really my cup of tea though.
salvia has a tendency to scare the shit out of people if they take enough to have a significant dose. and 20x is very powerful. if you don't approach with severe caution and reverance, you will be taught a lesson you wont soon forget, and likely will never want to smoke it again. if you're careful, it can provide some of the most magnificent visions of gods and devils and heaven and hell....you may experience the undescribable, if only for a few minutes. so really....its up to you. but just because its legal many places does not mean it isn't very powerful. its one of the strongest psychedelics i've ever had. nearly all my best, most spiritually fulfilling trips have involved salvia. likewise, the only trips i've had in which i was just unspeakably terrified were also with salvia.
The last time I smoked salvia it was 10x and I did it while I was peaking on acid. I think it was fun but I just kinda blacked out and the next thing I remember saying was "that's not very funny, God." That said, I've always been kinda underwhelmed when I've done salvia.
it all depends on dosage and tolerance. it took me forever to break through with salvia. once it happened, it happened for good. i usually have 5x or 10x at most....a small pinch is all i need and dont buy into the bs about needing a bong or a torch lighter or something. a normal pipe with a normal lighter works pefectly fine. i WILL suggest holding it in for as long as you possibly can, though.
If you hyperventilate for a few seconds before you take the hit, it brings more oxygen into your blood, so you can hold the hit for a bit longer, but you won't get absorption into the lungs until about the 15~20 second mark. If you exhale before that, you're going to lose a lot of the salvinorin (spelling) before your body takes it up.
just no what ur getting into. imo salvia is best used during the peak of a differnt drug but on its own it is still a very powerful entheogen and should not be used as a toy but that being said its one hell of a good ride.
i currently have a gram of 20x i bought at my smokeshop. ive done it plenty times before and i will admit its better with a couple friends than alone. i like it to an extent. if your nervous than do it with friends. dont forget to sit down i hate doing it standing.
i would wana do it sometime but only if i had a bong or somthing because with me i would think that since your suppose to hold it for really long i wud exhale and end up coughing up a lung and i wud be afraid it would send me into a bad trip
a bong does make it easier to hold the smoke, and at least 15 seconds isn't really a long time, unless you're on oxygen...in which case, I wouldn't advise smoking anyway..lol. As far as coughing a lung causing a bad trip, that'd be a new one on me. but you might be coughing and not know you've started the trip, which could fuck with you a bit. The trip really does depend on mindset with this. If you go in fearful or not respecting the power of the plant, you'll be more likely to get knocked down and have the flexible, shifting, wobbly reality make you pick your face off the floor, turn it inside out and say 'I DO NOT want to do it again.' and come out going 'wtf was that?'
Ok so my buddy who has already tried it and I are gonna smoke it some night this week. Can I use my vaporizer for it or should I just smoke it?
Centralsmoke, actually yeah, you can use your vaporizer for it, but keep in mind that it requires about 450F (if I remember right) just to start the salvinorin fuming properly, which is why it's not usually vaporized, as it depends on the model...I know the volcano vape can handle it, along with a few others, but those are pricey which is why it's usually either smoked or taken in liquid extract form.... BTW, while you CAN vape it...It's not likely to be a good idea, especially not with a 20x. Not unless you want lady sally to stick her stem in your ear. It's possible to get a way high dose that way. if you're absolutely determined to vape, (i.e. your vape can handle it...) use about 1/4 of what you'd smoke, as you can get a purer fume than you can through smoking. With you being a first timer, I would absolutely say 'smoke it'. This is one of those things of 'moderate range is best'. Get too high a dose, and it'll knock you out, or leave you in the equivalent of sleepwalking until the trip wears off. Weigh your dose, (I'd say about .05-.075 gram for you, if it actually is 20x. That means it's the extract of 19 leaves added back to each 1 dry. so it's roughly 20x as potent if its standardized, to regular leaf) keep the flame on it during the whole inhalation, hold for at least 15-20 seconds, and have a good time. I know the dose sounds small, but salvinorin a is second only to LSD in strenght on a mg to mg basis.