Gov is making Organic Farming Illegal...

Discussion in 'Gardening' started by Spirit Wynd, Mar 31, 2009.

  1. Spirit Wynd

    Spirit Wynd Member

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    I just saw a video on you tube about Obama creating a bill to make Organic Farming Illegal, and any business' has to switch to buying chemicals or face up to $500,000 in fines, most can't pay that and may lose their land, not to mention all the Intentional Communities that sell produce as extra income.

    Go to www.youtube.com and check it out.

    You know any activists who can start a rally and such to hopefully stop it?
    At least warn any communities and farmers you know.

    Man, I'm pissed, I hate chemi-kills!!!
     
  2. ChronicTom

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  3. Bonkai

    Bonkai Later guys

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  4. homeschoolmama

    homeschoolmama Senior Member

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    Snopes says this one is a "research in progress" right now too. I'm praying that means it's not competely true.

    love,
    mom
     
  5. Spirit Wynd

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    Hey Tom, the fact is I got upset when I saw the video making it illegal, and thought of all the organic farmers, is that ok with you? I didn't see the Obama farming at the white house until you posted it... so thanks for the enlightenment.

    So does that mean the bill won't be made and organic farms won't have to switch to chemicals?
     
  6. homeschoolmama

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    Give it some time - at this point it looks like it could be legit OR it could be a "conspiracy theory." I know I'll be keeping an eye on this one for sure because if it IS legit, I've got some calls to make!

    love,
    mom
     
  7. ChronicTom

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    What bill, what video?

    You posted that you watched some video, and posted a link to the biggest video site on the net.

    If it upsets you and you wish to do something about it, provide something more then, 'he's bad'... For all I know, he may be trying to make organic farming illegal, it seems unlikely considering his normal leanings, but I'm all for hearing actual proof that he is...
     
  8. Spirit Wynd

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    Yeah, that would help, but I still don't know how to place certain links from sites... I figured people would just type in the topic, Organic Farming Illegal, like I did and they can pick which video on it to watch.

    Anyway, someone pm'ed me saying there are too many farms in the country and they don't have the manpower to enforce such a bill, besides, that video you posted would mean the Obama's are breaking the new law too... so hopefully it won't go through and they can go work on some other scheme to mess up america.

    Thanks for the feedback everyone, and the video there Tom, next time I'll look around more and not post when upset.

    Peace
     
  9. reefer118

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    why on earth would they make organic farming illegal? i really doubt this is true.
     
  10. reefer118

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    april fools?
     
  11. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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    control the food supply you control the people. the bill is written so vague as to include any and all gardens including home gardens and therefore subject to government regulations.

    it is no april fools joke.
     
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    cozmo_g Is Out Of This World

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    Makes you wonder if the salmonella scares were actually used to convince the sheeple that such government 'regulation' is necessary to protect us from ourselves. Read up on the Codex Alimentarius if you want to know more about the global govenments plans for your food and nutrition.

    I just got done e-mailing my elected officials, and suggest we all do the same. OpEd News (google it) has a form that you can fill out that will forward e-mails to all of your representatives...I may call my local food market and suggest a protest in the coming days.
     
  13. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    I think you are referring to HR 875 and S 425. One is a House Bill, the other a Senate Bill, neither of which Obama authored. Both are directed towards food safety, and in light of the peanut contamination and the scandal over downer cattle I would say it's about time more stringent regulation was in place. I doubt either will conclude with home gardeners being accosted by federal agents. Organic gardeners that hope to retail to the public will be required to keep better records at some level, and possibly pass health inspections. Most retailers are already required to pass inspections in most states. And if you are using seeds obtained illegally without paying Monsanto their pound of flesh for seed patents you are open to targetting. But then real organic gardeners don't use Monsanto hybrids do they?

    I think the peanut and tomato/pepper contamination were the result of wealthy producers seeking to cut corners and make a profit with no concern for the health of their consumers. Not a global conspiracy!
     
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    Actually, there is a bill in the works, but it is written so vaguely, it could be interpreted many different ways. In the extreme interpretation, yes, it could make organic gardening illegal, but why would Obama do that?
     
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    Getting busted for NOT using products is ridiculous.Never fucken happen.
     
  16. Spirit Wynd

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    Obama and his Mason friends are doing whatever they think will move them closer to The New World Order, and control over food is only one factor, among many I'm afraid.
    Perhaps the video I saw was lacking details, they didn't mention any bill numbers, just the illegal part. Thanks again for all the feedback.
    There are many stupid laws out there, just to make money off the unwary, it's just another control tactic they think will work in their favor.
     
  17. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    You appear to have forgotten that people actually died from the contaminated peanuts. I think these bills are a response to those deaths. I think it's actually an attempt to make our food supply safer. I for one wish for the day when we can assume some degree of assurance as to it's safety. There was a time when the USDA inspection sticker meant something.

    Obama is not a Mason.

    http://www.masonicinfo.com/obama.htm
     
  18. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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    i can assure ALL my food is safe. because i grow ALL my own food.
     
  19. Spirit Wynd

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    It doesn't matter if he's a mason or not, the mason's control the presidents actions and many other aspects of our precious nation.
    If the bill is to fix the food problem, then fine, whatever, I still say it's just a smoke screen to control more shit. Like newspapers and news on tv, just smoke for the people to "not" see whats really going on.
    But that's what I see... you may see differently.
    It's all good... we're neither right nor wrong, we just life life as best we can, no matter what crap is out there. Hope for the best and prepare for the worst.
     
  20. ChronicTom

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    scare tactics 101....

    First pick an issue...

    "Gov is making Organic Farming Illegal"

    Be vague...

    "I just saw a video on you tube"..."Go to www.youtube.com and check it out"

    Become defensive when people question you;

    "is that ok with you?"

    Toss in extra issues to confuse things...

    "Obama and his Mason friends"... "NWO"
    "it's just a smoke screen to control more shit"
    "Like newspapers and news on tv, just smoke for the people to "not" see whats really going on. "

    Make it sound like the issue isn't a personal grudge and that it was just a matter of something insignificant;

    "It's all good... we're neither right nor wrong, we just life life as best we can, no matter what crap is out there."

    And whatever you do... never ever post the reference material you are quoting, that's just bad form...

    P.S. I saw a video on youtube of Spirit Wynd being taken over by an alien bent on the destruction of humans. Check it out; www.youtube.com
     

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