Hallucinations do not exist.

Maybe I'm hard headed. I dosed so much 4-AcO-DMT I fell to the floor and hurt my teeth (they moved but thank God I had braces). I never hallucinated. I only felt like I was dreaming while I was awake. I am disappointed. I have done over 900 mg of DXM and never hallucinated, no closed eyed "visuals" nothing open eyed, no light bending, just like being fucked up.

Does this mean I'm schizophrenic already? Does this mean I'm too logical and the people that "hallucinate" are weak minded and just think cool shit is happening? A friend of mine said he was tripping on weed. I laughed and said no way. Even though I never hallucinated. I've done Salvia divinorum 100x extract, mushrooms like over an eighth, 4-AcO-DMT like 50-60 mg and I never "hallucinated." Since ketamine is a dissociative like DXM I expect to not hallucinate. Am I schizophrenic? Are all hallucinators liars/weak minded? Will a phenethylamine which I have never done do the trick? Or maybe a diethylamide like LSD?

I'd like to see something. All I ever feel is the natural DMT being produced from the pineal gland too much so I'm just sleeping while awake. In fact, the most I've ever "hallucinated" was when I didn't sleep for 4 nights, 5 days, Adderal XR 90 mg + was involved during the night, but even then I wouldn't call that a halluicination, but it was the closet I've ever gotten, somewhat similar to salvia because I just "felt" entities were what I was looking at. Buit visual distortion? Not really. So what's up?

I've never had "visuals!" even on mushrooms, baoes, they just made white on black text seem rainbow color. Ooooh, ahhh. nothing to that. From what I've heard, people get a lot more than that...

Sounds like I need to meet either Lucy, DMT, or 2C-C?

 

...Yeah if you want to hallucinate try DMT.
Or you could take more shrooms.
Take 7-9 grams and try to say you're not hallucinating.
Having never done 4-aco-dmt I don't know what it's like, but could your measurement be off?
You simply haven't gone far enough.
I assure you it does not mean you are too logical, or that people describing hallucinations to you are "weak minded".

 

Don't think it's possible to take more shrooms. Apparently something like 50 mg psilocin which is essentially what I ingested would be equivalent to like 70 mg psilocybin which in studies I believe 30mg were used to help people with PTSD and near death experiences and induced hallucinations. Psilocybin is converted to Psilocin like 4-AcO-DMT is converted into Psolocin, at like 70-90% efficiency, so should be same ballpark. Perhaps I've been on too many meds, but I would imagine that if I took enough to drop onto the floor and hurt my teeth without feeling it, there should be more than mild cannabis like visual effects?

As a matter of fact, I think it was too much for me, it wasn't enjoyable. I will take less next time, perhaps 10 mg. I've heard from naturopathic sources that less equals more effect, and in some medications that is the truth. So perhaps I took so much it bypassed the effects. I'll find out in the next few weeks. Perhaps I should try some Lucy and 2C-C when I get my hands on some.

 

How exactly is it not possible to take more shrooms?
I've dosed around 8 grams (I believe they were called amazonians, but I'm not positive. Def. funky lookin shrooms though. Damn potent.), and it was one of the most intense experiences of my entire life.
At the time I did not enjoy it, but looking back I suppose I benefited from it.
I was most definitely hallucinating lol.
Falling into what I perceived at the time to be god (an impossibly complex color shifting psychedelic image I saw in my mind as I lay on the floor "unconscious") shattered my ego.
Other than DMT I think that's probably the only time I've had true ego loss.
Even with a 10 strip of L I still know who I am, but on that shroom dose I had no idea what anything really was lol.
As I said earlier I just don't think you've gone far enough.

 

if you want to hallucinate, take dramamine or datura. psychedelics do not actually cause traditional "hallucinations", in the sense of true altered realities, unless youre on a hero dose. normally what they cause are color intensification, play with form, patterning, that kind of stuff. not so much a whole new reality, as a neat new layer on this one. i found that i didnt get real visuals the first few times i tripped, that my brain sort of "learned" to "catch up" my visual center with what was going on in my head over time. just keep dosing, and mix up the substances. if 4-aco-dmt doesnt do it for you, then it doesnt mean youre immune to it, it just means you dont get visuals from 4-aco-dmt. snort 150mg DPT and then come on here and tell me your thoughts on those "visuals".

 

DPT is your friend!

 

i get this vibe that people are really quickly evolving. like, i used to hallucinate balls. but now i just don't. i took five hits and barely got anything, besides the intimate trip with my self. this was recently... yeah....

so i'm beginning to agree with you.

but when i tried DMT (this was back when i'd hallucinate) i did hallucinate.

 

i dont know what your looking for. little green men? as writer said, most psyches rarely cause visual hallucinations to that degree. visuals as in geometric patterns folding in upon themselves is about all your going to see usually. if you are looking to find yourself immersed in a world that is unrecognizable to this one, a world inhabited by our little green freinds...try dmt.

ps. i dont think there is much substance to the idea that hallucinators are weak minded, i tend to think, if anything its the opposite. its easy to ride a shallow trip, but it takes balls to let go into the kind of vortex that spins around real hallucinations. (to a degree, it really is a choice to move into that vortex, depending on your dose) i dont think most people can handle seeing mantis creatures clear as day surgically altering them. lol, mantis? wait what?....you again!!!? lol "mantis buddy, i do love you but could do well without ever seeing you again"

 

Yea most drugs don't really make you hallucinate (see things that aren't there), other than maybe deliriants like datura, or maybe taking a lot of benadryl. And from what I've read 4acodmt doesn't seem like a very visual substance.

Some drugs are definitely more visual than others though. 12 and 16mg of 2ce didn't really give me any visuals, but 2ci always gives me some visuals. I'd say you're pretty much guaranteed to get some visuals from say 30mg 2ci, at least I'd be surprised if you didn't.

 

Or 30mg of 2ce 2ci isn't nearly as visual for me as 2ce is.

 

2ci you mean perhaps?





But everybodys different. I know a guy who doses twice as much as me and still isn't tripping as hard. perhaps your body doesn't metabolize the drug like others.

 

hahaha Thanks man. I've been sober for the passed few days, so I'm a little off. lol It's fixed now:tongue:

 

I have rarely gotten "true hallucinations" on most psychs. I doubt you will achieve them with LSD unless you do over 600 mics. DMT, high dose DXM, and Salvia will be your best bets. Using datura you will hallucinate, however, you won't know it.

 

Wow I have 100x salvia a whole bunch maybe I should try a bunch of that. I know that helps depression.

What about 2C-C? I heard that's visual.

Maybe I should take more DXM.

 

Or get some real drugs (or worthwhile ones anyways)

 

Such as?

 

Did you say you took meds? I believe I have read antidepressants can kill psychedelics like shrooms effects.

I'd stay away from datura and mandrake. Yeah they'll make you hallucinate but they will probably really fuck you up too, mentally and physically.

 

It all comes down to one question: what are you looking for?

I would try a nice dose of mescaline, from mescaline cacti. Try some trichocereus bridgesii or peruvianus, but do some reading up on them before you do. This is important, because there are many things you should know and consider before you just eat a cactus.

And sunshinechild is right. A lot of meds, including antidepressants and antisychotics, will deminish the effects of psychedelics.

 

What are "real drugs?"

 

Psilocin is mindfucky novisual shitty ass psilocybin, essentiall (5-ohdmt vs. 4-ho-dmt). Go with lucy or DOC, I guarentee visuals.