Happy Columbus Day

I just remembered that I took some photos of Columbus' tomb in Spain. I didn't realize that he was "buried" in this Cathedral, just happened to come across him there. I don't think he deserves much of a holiday, and I guess that makes me more pro "indigenous peoples day." But, whatever.

 

Many thousands of years prior to white men when no one was here due to climate. If anyone had a "culture" first it's the natives. I lived with some for a while. Columbus to them is what every Muslims and Mexican is to the right wing AKA the same people to which a white Columbus matters so much. It gives you perspective.

Who stole what? And now those people are so upset that a large number of people come to "their" home and overwhelm them with numbers. It's scary huh? Gee that must suck.

 

Trust you. lol

 

1491, the last year america was a free country. 574 of them. before it was named after the fantasy map maker vespucci, who never saw what since has become the u.s.
(actually more then 574 because at least 13 cultures in california and who knows how many elsewhere, have yet to be federally recognized)

happy indigenous people's day, as is now recognized in a number of states and a great many cities, villages and towns.

there are three known immigration routes, besides the bearing "ice bridge", there was also the kontiki route and the meritme archaic, who just btw, weren't 'white' either, as there was no such thing anywhere on the planet at the time. i still like the idea of coyote pulling us (i mean humans. i have no blood claim or cultural enough to count) out of the ocean or out of a hollow log or something. that humans were created by a trickster as one of his dumb jokes on himself.

13,000 years is a hell of a lot longer then 5 or 6 hundred.
doctrine of discovery is nothing but a lame excuse for what amounts to having been genocide.

 

Puerto Rico-Virgin Islands rejoices Friendship Day

 

the other good news, buses are running on their full every weekday schedule here. no holiday service reductions for the day.
we need more public transportation on weekends and holidays, not less.

even christianity says you still need to feed your cattle on their special day of the week.
i consider public transportation to be in that catigory of things that still need to be done, however holy or traditional a day might happen to be.

 

Sorry just seen this.

 

I read lots too Zen.
Glad you have had a wonderful day.

 

they didnt spend much time on columbus here in grade school. other explorers were more popular reading anyways. I thinks Magellan was the nuns favorite.

 

Yeah... and it sucks too.

 

Screw Columbus...the norse got here first. Niw that would've been a meet and greet. Vikings and natives.

 

do they? all those people look white.

i heard a comedian recently talking about it, and as he said: if you were an indigenous people, would you want your day to be the day columbus showed up?

 

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Why is Columbus portrayed as some evil tyrant but other people who did the same thing, killed many more people, burned down land and countries like Alexander the Great worshiped as as almost immortal gods with symbolism's of courage and honor?

It's also not like the indigenous peoples of the Americas also lived disease free. In fact, at the tail end of the Aztec etc. They even had less of a clue than anyone from Europe. Those guys were dismembering people alive and throwing them into their own drinking water, poisoning themselves and blaming their new found ill fortune on celestial beings.

If America wasn't found we'd have to put up with all you yanks in Europe still. So bury your hatchets, we're better off over here.

 

Those people you mention don't have a day devoted to them and are not usualy discussed until high school history. It's a more sensitive topic here since Natives still exist and Columbus is given a kid friendly treatment which does not discuss the real facts.

Same issue with Thanksgiving. 7 year olds see colorful cartoons in text books and are told only the good things. Because of this to many he's seen as only good. American Italians in particular are proud of him. It's not accurate history as a history buff and it leads to exceptionalism. The vikings discovered here if we don't count the natives so what did he really do? He made rural right wingers feel good on racial lines. On things they have not earned themselves. He is a white Christian man who was the "first" in the white Christian nation of Ameirca.

Although the Aztecs did sacrifice people they also had a very sophisticated culture. It was the same idea as European Christians burning "witches". In either case god is happy when we hurt this person and kill him.

I don't mean this an insult but I think this is an issue that only Americans truly get. Like could I really go to Ireland and comment on that history? I have read of it but do I have the personal connection? No.

 

Ummm - the Kontiki expedition lead by Thor Heyerdahl proved that South American Inca tribes emigrated West FROM Chile and Peru to the South Sea islands, not as you seem to suggest TO America !!!