Help Bring Gas Prices Down!!

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by RavenTheDarkAngel, Apr 11, 2006.

  1. RavenTheDarkAngel

    RavenTheDarkAngel Member

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    I got this in an e-mail today and want to spread this to as many people as possible! So copy and paste it and send to your family as well!

    This might be worth a try and it certainly won't hurt to test out this theory:
    GAS WAR - an idea that WILL work

    This was originally sent by a retired Coca Cola
    executive It came from one of his engineer buddies
    who retired from Halliburton. It's worth your
    consideration.

    Join the resistance!!!! I hear we are going to
    hit
    close to $ 4.00 a gallon by next summer and it might
    go higher!! Want gasoline prices to come down? We
    need to take some intelligent, united action.

    Phillip Hollsworth offered this good idea. This makes
    MUCH MORE SENSE than the "don't buy gas on a certain
    day" campaign that was going around last April or May!
    The oil companies just laughed at that because they
    knew we wouldn't continue to "hurt" ourselves by
    refusing to buy gas. It was more of an inconvenience
    to us than it was a problem for them. BUT, whoever
    thought of this idea, has come up with a plan that can
    really work. Please read on and join with us!

    By now you're probably thinking gasoline priced at
    about $1.50 is super cheap. Me too! It is currently
    $2.79 for regular unleaded in my town. Now that the
    oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us
    to think that the cost of a gallon of gas is CHEAP at
    $1.50 - $1.75, we need to
    take aggressive action to
    teach them that BUYERS control the marketplace..not
    sellers. With the price of gasoline going up more each
    day, we consumers need to take action. The only way we
    are going to see the price of gas come down is if we
    hit someone in the pocketbook by not purchasing their
    gas! And, we can do that WITHOUT hurting ourselves.
    How?

    Since we all rely on our cars, we can't just stop
    buying gas. But we CAN have an impact on gas prices if
    we all act together to force a price war.

    Here's the idea: For the rest of this year, DON'T
    purchase ANY gasoline from the two biggest companies
    (which now are one), EXXON and MOBIL. If they are not
    selling any gas, they will be inclined to reduce their
    prices. If they reduce their prices, the other
    companies will have to follow suit. But to have an
    impact, we need to reach literally millions of Exxon
    and Mobil gas buyers. It's really simple to do! Now,
    don't wimp
    out on me at this point...keep reading and
    I'll explain how simple it is to reach millions of
    people!!

    I am sending this note to 30 people. If each of us
    send it to at least ten more (30 x 10 = 300) ... and
    those 300 send it to at least ten more (300 x 10 =
    3,000)...and so on, by the time the message reaches
    the sixth group of people, we will have reached over
    THREE MILLION consumers.

    If those three million get excited and pass this on to
    ten friends each, then 30 million people will have
    been contacted! If it goes one level further, you
    guessed it..... THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE!!!

    Again, all you have to do is send this to 10 people.
    That's all!
    (If you don't understand how we can reach 300 million
    and all you have to do is send this to 10 people....
    Well, let's face it, you just aren't a mathematician.
    But I am . so trust me on this one.) :)

    How long would all that take? If each of us sends
    this
    e-mail out to ten more people within one day of
    receipt, all 300 MILLION people could conceivably be
    contacted within the next 8 days!!! I'll bet you
    didn't think you and I had that much potential, did
    you! Acting together we can make a difference.

    If this makes sense to you, please pass this message
    on. I suggest that we not buy from EXXON/MOBIL UNTIL
    THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO THE $1.30 RANGE AND KEEP
    THEM DOWN. THIS CAN REALLY WORK.

    Kerry Lyle, Director, Research Coordinator

     
  2. Last Stand

    Last Stand Banned

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    i just went to the gas station $2.89 for regular it was cheaper 3 days ago.
     
  3. KyndVeggie4Peace

    KyndVeggie4Peace -[ in.bloom ]-

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    That actually sounds like a really good idea. If we do 'boycott' the major gasoline suppliers, they will be forced to lower their prices to get business ... and then everyone else will lower their prices as well to keep up with the 'competition'. I dont get my gas from Exxon or Mobil anyway ... but I will pass on the message. Together we can make a difference!

    Love and Light. :D
     
  4. _chris_

    _chris_ Marxist

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    How about ditching the shackles of a supply and demand based eonomy? A state oil company coulld provide cheap petrol. Hell, you guys in the states are benifiting from venezuala doing that, as are the venezualan people. You cant use capitalism to solve capitalisms problems, you have to ditch it.
     
  5. glass_girl

    glass_girl Member

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    The gas prices don't bug me at all. I love my green bicycle! That's my wheels.
     
  6. FreeDawg

    FreeDawg Member

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    I saw this same email about a year ago. Oh, and the year before that. And the year before that.

    Rises in Oil Prices are caused by artificial shortages; OPEC cutting production, and by a limited capacity of production. (The EPA has successfully eliminated the ability to construct new oil refineries to meet an increase in demand.)

    This is not a market problem. This is a government problem. Boycotting the sellers of gasoline will only serve to put teenagers and gas station attendants out of a job. It will have NO affect on oil producers, as they will still have a government-granted monopoly over oil production.

    Further, more than 1/3rd of the price you pay at the pump is taxes. Eliminating these taxes would immediately reduce the price of gasoline by 33%. Additionally, oil producers pay billions of dollars annually in severance taxes on oil production which decrease profits and output. Eliminating, or reducing, these taxes would make more oil production profitable and this increased production would drive oil and fuel prices down.

    For more information on REAL ways to reduce the price of gasoline and other sources of energy, I recommend this excellent article: http://www.mises.org/story/389
     
  7. cerridwen

    cerridwen in stitches

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    good idea I guess. How 'bout saving up some cash to invest in a hybrid car? that way you're buying gas considerably less often anyway.
     
  8. FreeDawg

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    Man, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but supply and demand is not an socioeconomic CHOICE.

    Perhaps in the Garden of Eden, where everything is plentiful and requires little to no labor to produce. But reality dictates that we must labor to produce goods which enhance our lives beyond subsistence levels. There is simply not an infinite supply of anything anyone could want or need. Hence, Supply and Demand.

    To put it bluntly - have you ever tried to grow bananas in Canada?
     
  9. _chris_

    _chris_ Marxist

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    prices dont have to be controlled by supply and demand though
     
  10. MikeE

    MikeE Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    Is cheaper gasoline a good goal? Should it be easier to use more gasoline than we do now?

    Is lowering gasoline prices the best way to get cheaper transportation?

    With the current adminstation in Washington, it might be easer to direct tax dollars to a big public transit company.
     
  11. May Aizelle

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    for hte longest time root was still at 1.75!! and then we lost our card so we cant get from them and we're painy 2.79!! its insane... but what really bites my ass is that you'll see a 10 cent difference just by driving 20 minutes...... it really quite pisses me off....I know there's a place in the valley that had it for 1.75 too but no one is out there its really in the middle of nowhere and you'd burn what you'd save just getting out there... its so ughh.. annoying
     
  12. FreeDawg

    FreeDawg Member

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    Right, you could have a shortage of EVERYTHING.
    Perpetual world famine, that's the ticket!

    Prices serve a very important function. They are the means by which scarce and precious resources are allocated in the most efficient manner. Prices are how goods get allocated in markets in accordance with actual conditions. When demand increases, prices go up, all other things being equal. It's not immoral.

    You can read more about how prices work: http://www.mises.org/story/1593
    http://www.mises.org/story/1942
    http://www.mises.org/journals/scholar/Keeler.pdf
     
  13. Spidey

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    There isn't even all of a sudden a shortage. Just a scam if you ask me, and the article about government intervention proves it.

    Why ration fuel anyway, if in the future cars are going to be all produced as being either hybrids of gasoline/electric, to maybe full electric. I think it's a great scam to get more money out of the American public.

    People who's jobs require that they but their own fuel everyday are hit hardest. The government doesn't even raise the standard mileage deduction for income tax purpose in proportion to the cost of fuel.
     
  14. _chris_

    _chris_ Marxist

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    state owned industry...


    state set prices relative to wages
     
  15. blindhobosam

    blindhobosam The Legend

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    if prices go up then more people are gonna drive less....sounds like a good thing to me with environment and shit goin' down....
     
  16. Last Stand

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    Prices go up you wont have a job and everything alse well cost more including food.
     
  17. blindhobosam

    blindhobosam The Legend

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    what does it matter if we don't even have a planet to live on because we fucked this one up by polluting it to death?
     
  18. canadian_boy

    canadian_boy Brohn Zmith

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    excellent point here ...
     
  19. Last Stand

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    well lets just go back to rural era 1800s so we dont polute. forget your pc too thats plastic and uses power.
     
  20. blindhobosam

    blindhobosam The Legend

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    im no historian but i'm sure regressing is never a good idea.

    we could try developing technology so that we dont destroy the planet but can still use the benifits of modern technology? or is forward thinking too much like hard work?
     

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