help identify this one...

Discussion in 'Magic Mushrooms' started by PeaceAndRasta, Jul 24, 2008.

  1. PeaceAndRasta

    PeaceAndRasta Senior Member

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    ok so this morning i saw this shroom in the grass right by a jungle like forest, and in my head i thought at first it was a liberty cap (which ive never experienced before and seen it in real life) but im not sure.
    so i picket it up, and i thought it looked like cubensis (which i experienced a lot of times and im good at identifying it) i though it was a messed up cap of it.
    i never thought of eatin it and wont, but im thinking of regrow it (taking its gills... and planting it in my own way) and maybe then it will pop out that it is a shroom? or a poisonous shroom and i was just trripin?

    well i need your help with identifying this one in the photo: (u can see that it bruises blue)

    http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1002093va4.jpg
    http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1002094qn0.jpg
    http://img379.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1002095ni4.jpg


    Your Help Is Appreciated! :)
     
  2. Severely stoned

    Severely stoned Senior Member

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    The first picture is really blurry, couldn't say anything about it.
    Without spore prints its impossible to correctly ID any shrooms, but I would be very careful about eating those as you know it could be the last thing you ever do.
     
  3. PeaceAndRasta

    PeaceAndRasta Senior Member

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    yea my camera sucks...
    how can u identify by the print?
     
  4. 36fuckin5

    36fuckin5 Alchemycologist

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    Those pics are WAY too blurry to ID, but I can tell you right now it's not a Cube. The stem is too thin compared to a Cube, and you wouldn't be able to bend it like that without it breaking. The stipe of a Cubensis is pretty brittle. It also seems that the gills fall below the margin, which doesn't happen with Cubes.

    Probably not even worth taking a print.
     
  5. Geneity

    Geneity self-proclaimed advocate

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    Are you talking about those little bastards that pop up all over grassy fields right after it rains heavily? I've been curious about them as well, but am pretty convinced they aren't psychoactive.

    I think the ones I'm talking about are Conocybes. Most of which are highly toxic. Actually: http://www.mushroomexpert.com/conocybe_albipes.html

    There it is. Not sure if that's what yours are, but I'm glad I found the answer. You need better pictures OP man.
     
  6. PeaceAndRasta

    PeaceAndRasta Senior Member

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    well thank u all, and ya all are right..
    it look like the third one of the Conocybe......
    thanks anyway =]
     
  7. iamthewalrus22

    iamthewalrus22 Member

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    The second one really looks like either Panaeolus foenesecii or panaeolus subbalteatus. Panaeolus subbalteatus has alot of psilocybin in it but p. foenesecii has none. Take a spore print of it and if the print is jet black then you can be that much more sure its p.subbalteatus. Search them both up on the shroomery and compare.
     
  8. Colimon

    Colimon Cheesus Christo

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    You cannot tell from those pics man. Also, if they're inside grass, I would just say that those aren't active. You can take a spore print if you like.
     
  9. PeaceAndRasta

    PeaceAndRasta Senior Member

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    thank u man:)

    i got a quick question that i have to ask u...
    what u think about the movie yellow subm?
    i just got it, it seems awsome, but im afraid to watch it because im afraid it will be boring....
     
  10. Geneity

    Geneity self-proclaimed advocate

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    What's the print looking like? I don't think you're going to have any luck, but I'm still interested.
     
  11. The Mushroom Man

    The Mushroom Man Member

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    In case you guys don't know, a spore print will only identify up to the genus, which can be troublesome. Say, for example, you find something that looks like a cube, and take the spore print, it will only tell you that it is a psilocybe. After that, it is up to you to figure out whether or not it is a cube. There are a LOT of mushrooms in the Psilocybe genus, most of which have no hallucinogenic effects. So just be really careful. The last thing anyone needs is another person dead from trying to get high, makes all of us look stupid.

    The Mushroom Man
     
  12. 36fuckin5

    36fuckin5 Alchemycologist

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    Of course, but a spore print can give you the genus, then you can use cap color/shape, gill structure, stem structure, habitat, etc. But a spore print is a MUST when IDing any mushroom.
     
  13. iamthewalrus22

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    It is super trippy, like it was made for tripping. If you watched it sober you would probably be really bored but if you watch it stoned or on shrooms you would probably have an amazing time. This is a video from youtube showing the end of the movie and it gives you a pretty good idea of how trippy the movie is - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkgV5yMw19o&feature=related
     
  14. PeaceAndRasta

    PeaceAndRasta Senior Member

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    thank u all for your help ;)
    im kinda convinced that it it a poisonous one or p.subbalteatus
     
  15. Geneity

    Geneity self-proclaimed advocate

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    If the spore print is jet black you might have something.....
     
  16. PeaceAndRasta

    PeaceAndRasta Senior Member

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    yea! its really black
     
  17. iamthewalrus22

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    Yeah, definitely spore print it, its really easy and they have instructions on how do it on the shroomery. Also, since you said it bruises blue, there is only one toxic mushroom that bruises blue and its called galerina. On wikipedia it says the galerina's spore pritns are cinnamon brown so if the spore print is jet black then you can be much more sure. Here is waht it says on wikipedia- This group is most noted for toxic species which are occasionally confused with hallucinogenic species of Psilocybe. Galerina fruiting bodies are typically small, undistinguished mushrooms with a typical "little brown mushroom" morphology and a yellow-brown, light brown to cinnamon-brown spore print.

    Its really easy to do a spore print, just search for it on the shroomery, so if i were you i would go to where you found those shrooms and pick as many as you can, cause theres a good chance they may be active :)
     
  18. iamthewalrus22

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    And i would dry them so they dont rot, cause a spore print usually takes 12 hours, again you can find info on how to dry them on the shroomery
     
  19. Geneity

    Geneity self-proclaimed advocate

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    Wow is it really black? *jealousy*

    Next time I'm picking some of those lawn mushrooms and doing a spore print. I still think those are Conocybes, but making a spore print should be cool.
     
  20. 36fuckin5

    36fuckin5 Alchemycologist

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    DUDE, JUST BECAUSE THE SPORE PRINT LOOKS OK AND YOU GOT AN ID FROM BLURRY PICS, DO NOT EAT THOSE MUSHROOMS!!

    This is your life you're risking here. There is no way to positively ID those mushrooms from those pictures. We can't see the gill attachment, can barely see the cap colors, we can't clearly see the stem, and way more stuff. Basically, all you have that's suitable for an ID is a size comparison.
     

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