Hi good morning, I'm from Spain, and I need help with the Salvia, because i smoked for frist time on the last Tuesday, and I have a bad experience, with 5X extract. I don't know why, when i was high I see that a friend was recording on video, and when I see the camera, I became aggressive, because I see extrange things on the camera, and I can't support it. Well, yesterday night, I smoke again, but on this time I smoke salvia leafs, and when I smoked a bong, I start to see how the room want's to turn, but this is not the problem, the problem was that on this moment I was so frightened, I don't know why, because I want to smoke salvia and experience with It, but when I smoke and everything starts to change I'm always was frightened. And then, I want to ask you if it's possible that this happened to me, because I don't smoke enough amount of salvia, and I only arrive to the ''middle experience'' that it's that I start to see how the things start to change, but I can't see anything clearly, only distorsioned things, and it's possible that this is why the pressure off me, and i have bad experiences. Anyways, I charged 3grams of 20X extract, because I was decided to try it correctly, but I want to see if you can advise me about do it or not, because after the things that happened to me i'm not sure if I tolerate correctly the salvia or something like that. Thank you very much for your attention, and I'm sorry about my bad English, because i was lerning on this moment, and I'm not so good. Best regards.
you only smoked x5? you should really try a higher potency. how aggressive were you on the video? and please do note that it is COMPLETELY understandable if you don't like the salvia experience. So if or when you do have a legitimate salvia trip and do not like it, it's fine not to like it, because most people don't. if you want to enjoy a good psychedelic trip, I, along with most people on these forums would suggest, is trying shrooms, lsd, and maybe RC's and i'm just curious, did you use a translator to write this or did you go off of the english you know?
Are you using a translator, or typing that yourself? I think that the problem is the setting. You should try it away from the prying eyes of cameras, people who mess with trippers for youtube, that sort of thing. There should probably be only one other person there, and they should be a sober, responsible trip sitter who has taken salvia themselves, if you know anyone like that. If you don't know anyone who will be sincere about it, you might try slowly increasing your dose alone, in a relaxed setting, when you have nothing weighing on your mind. But you should probably also try a higher threshold dose to increase from.
Hi again and thank you for the responses, haha, I'm only use the translator for 2 phrases, and some words. Yes, by the moment I only smoke 5X, but I think that for the next week, I'm going to receive 3grams of 20X extract, because I´m decided to fell a real salvia experience, yes or yes, in spite that it was the last one in my life haha!!. and with the thing of the camera, I'm not so agressive, because in any moment y want to slap anyone, I'm only picked up violently the camera and put it on the couch, and I screamed Stop recording!! like 4 times, but the person that is recording doesn't stop, and at the end I get the camera for hide it, because I can't support to see it any more time, but in spite that it isn't so agressive, I'm frightened in case I smoke salvia again, happen something like that, but more agressive or something like that. And yeah, on the next time when I have the 20X extract, I'm gonna smoke only with my girlfriend. And I also want to comment, that I think that it's possible that those things happend to me because of the people, because on the video i can see that they was asking me things, and they don´t let me quiet in any moment, and I'm thinking that because of this I'm afraid when I smoke and start to feeling the effects. Ok thank you very much guys, you are helping me a lot. Best regards
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Ok dude first. It all depends on the salvia I had leafs to 20x. And let me tell you the last 20x extract I had omfg that shit is so fucking crazy I was actually able to go into salvia land. Best fucking salvia ever. The 20x. Same brand of salvia I had did nothing to me. So maybe that 5x was some good salvia. Don't go by what other people tell you. Half of the time this people never really had a breaktru. But I do agree u should start with shrooms or lsd. Salvia is a mind fuck
Hi chrizt1an, yes of course that te 20X extract it's so strong, and this is why you have to smoke less amount than the 5X extract, if you smoke the same amount than the 5X one you want to die infact, or that's what I think. And no thanks, I don´t want to try LSD, because I don't like the Chemical drugs, I think that they was more dangerous than naturals, like salvia & weed, And Me already try the shrooms, and I like it. And I doesn't do what people tells me, I do every time what I want, don´t worry about that. thanks Regards.
word. imo, mild experiences are the only ones that are potentially pleasurable. the bad feeling has something to do with the chemicals on your brain when you use it, it's a normal effect, salvinorin is a disphoric substance. the most frightening experiences are the stronger ones, by far, so i think it will probably only get worse. don't use salvia if you want to "feel good", you'll have the opposite.
Yeah I always thought the same. If its natural is the best. but nah lsd is not so bad. Anyways yeah salvia is a pathway to god. Even thought I don't beilive in religion. I truly beilive that salvia is the most potent Psychedelic stronger than dmt. I never done dmt neither but I know dmt don't bring pain. Lol so. Yeah. Ps. Good thing u have ur gf to watch you my gf hates salvia she says. She don't like the way it trips me out. She doesn't understand *). Saludos
everything is chemical compounds, it doesn't matter if it is in a plant or in a pill. some compounds are harmful, others aren't too much. crack cocaine and heroin are extracted from plants, just like dmt and the salvinorin extracts used to fortify the leafs. this "natural is better" thing is bullshit.
Amen that's what I meant by lsd is not so bad as you think. Any drug is bad just depends how you control it
yea, there are in fact some drugs that are more destructive than others, but you can't measure this only by the "is it natural or synthetic" criteria. this belief that natural plants aren't harmful is probably due to marijuana, which is indeed very safe, mild and nice. but what would you say about datura, which is just a flower? would anyone be more comfortable with a datura trip over a lsd trip in this world? i don't think so.
Hi again, yea is true that all the drugs was extracted from a plant, but the diference it's that the compound to fortify the salvia leafs it's only salviorin, and for example for extract the cocaine from the coca-leafs, they put on it things like kerosene, sulfuric acid, ammonia, éter, and somethings more, and this is the kind of shit that i don't want to put inside my body, (this may sound bad, but i don't know to write it in another way haha, sorry) And yesterday night, I try again the salvia, only leafs, and I have some allucinations!!I´m happy because i can smoke salvia!! hahaha, and I realized, that before I start to have allucinations, I have a very strong dizziness, and before when I start to feel like this, is when I start to be overwhelmed, and I don't want to be like this, but on this ocassion, instead of this I smoke another bong of salvia, and after this, I look my computer on the table, and with the cpu case(i don't know if you understand what it is, but for you understan is the part of the computer where you put the DVD's), the sobwoofer, and the screen (this things was on a table one near the other), and I can see a city formed, by this 3 things!! I love salvia!! haha, and I was listen relaxin music, and when I was high, the music was beautyfull. and that's all, for the moment, I tell you when I receive the 20X extract on this week, I'm anxious. thank you for everythings guys, and also I can practise my written English. regards.
Cocaine is extracted with those chemicals. Those chemicals are not cocaine, and not in cocaine. Salvinorin hasto be extracted via chemical as well. I'm not sure which process it requires, but i'm pretty sure it's more than an ISO wash. A chemical being natural has nothing to do with it being safe or not.
I did plenty of LSD and if there isnt strictnine in it it is a very clean high. It comes..stays a long time..at least in the 4-800mic range..then it leaves with seemingly no bad effects. But remember to much of anything is bad especialy if your not living your livfe sober at least half the time. Salvia is so different. It isnt the high...it isnt a high at all realy. Its a revelation..the way to expierience an alternate reality. At least for me so far..but it gets better with time as I realize what i need to do and not do to make my next expierience more enjoyable. I cant wait for a breakthrough...the firthest i have gotten so far is energy and colors completely engulfing me. No sky..no ground or couch...just lights and energy. It was scary at the time..but in hindsight, I loved it. I loved it for salvias ability to take me completely out of this world into another one. To be able to leave self behind completely is my goal...so I can be deemed worthy of some real insight and learning. I hope they dont illegalize the stuff....at least for the sake of us who arnt just after the escape to get away from our responsibilities...but looking to grow and bring something back from our subconcious valuable and useable in our material world. Alcohol is so much worse.....you never here someone wake from a good bender and say...Im so enlightened. And it kills every freggin second of the day. Mr Fed !!! I know you guys read this. Dont take away our Salvia There is a lot of drunks and sick shit other that idiots smoking salvia on the web and they just want to keep on going. Most who do salvia to "Get High" dont want to do it again. It is us who really see something else in it...not getting high who use it for growth.
