hey nesta..

Discussion in 'Cannabis and Marijuana' started by ssj3gotenks, Oct 18, 2005.

  1. ssj3gotenks

    ssj3gotenks Member

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    just wanted to say im sorry for talking s*** to you in another post. I looked back on it and i don't think your were trying to talk s*** to me, i think now that you were just saying that what i was saying was incorrect (about hipforums and IE history). i'm really sorry.
     
  2. nesta

    nesta Banned

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    i dont recall it at the moment but no worries.

    i dont take all this stuff too too seriously.
     
  3. UrsusKind

    UrsusKind U like Chris Farley?

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    Nesta realizes this is just a web site for fun man you should go down to sonme of the other sections of the board and spread the knowledge.

    I vote nesta president of the forums. With his methods in place all trolls would stay in their place!!


    I know I'm kinda interloping but hey... what can I say.
     
  4. geckopelli

    geckopelli Senior Member

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    Hey, nesta!

    Good to see your're still flying, compadre.

    Got a general opinion on cambodia p. cubes? better, or worse, than, say, p.cubensis mexicana?
    Got some friends with spores wondering if it's worth the trouble since they live in mushroom land.
     
  5. nesta

    nesta Banned

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    hey man, it's good to see you're around as well, haven't heard anything from you lately. how's everything going?

    personally i have no experience with "mexican" cubensis varieties afaik. i've grown out the cambodian strain, and fwiw i always had a special affinity for them. in my experience they usually produced great textbook cubes with very few aborts. that said, i've noticed relatively little difference between "strains" of cubes - grown under the same conditions they usually all will reliably deliver decent cubensis of roughly the same potency. however every type will grow differently, often varying from grow to grow, and everyone's past experiences flavor their ideas of the differences between types of cubes. while i prefer cambodians and ko samui, many other people prefer golden teachers or B+ or whatever, and different growers with nearly identical situations may get different results from the same strain.

    as far as i know, there is little evidence to support the idea that "strains" of cubensis produce reliable and consistant substantial differences from one another, other than a few superficial differences mostly regarding appearance. there is far more difference between strains of cannabis than strains of cubensis.

    that said, i've also heard quite a few people report that wild cubes are usually higher in potency, and this could be a deciding factor for most people, but the main issue here is what substrate you're using. most home growers work indoors with sterilized grain-based substrates, which do not offer the same nutrition found in things such as manure. you can work cheaply and effectively with more nutrient-rich substrates is you're willing to go the extra mile with using more advanced techniques (forget the PF tek!) which will offer both increased potency, increased size, and larger yields, and you can even move outdoors and create huge beds of mushroom gardens if you can provide them with the right conditions. assuming you're willing to grow in bulk and use pasteurized straw/manure, you could potentially have mushrooms every bit as good as you'd find in a cattle pasture, produced with consistancy in a secure location. this would offer a more discreet means of acquiring the mushrooms (no need to sneak around in farm yards or anything like that), there would be no competition for finding the mushrooms before other hunters, and the quality could be just as high with more care given to the mushrooms and quite frankly much less chance of eating mushrooms with shit all over them :p

    on the other hand, it would still cost SOME money even if it could end up being cheaper than producing the on the same scale using the PF tek or grain based casings, whereas wildcrafting will offer free mushrooms, and the risk of wildcrafting is minimal in florida with the legal precedents set providing you the ability to claim ignorance of what exactly you were gathering to avoid prosecution for possession.

    basically, if you're willing to put in the effort, and money was spent on the spores, you could have high quality shrooms year round for a very low cost and a higher level of privacy regarding your actions. but if the spores were free, you feel up to romping around outdoors to gather mushrooms, and you have no real need or desire to grow them, it probably isn't worth your time to try except as a learning experience.
     
  6. nesta

    nesta Banned

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    also keep in mind that if you're growing in bulk and have good methods down pat, you can grow pretty much indefinitely without ever taking another spore print or buying new spores. the mycellium is all basically the same, and some can even be revived a bit after it's thought to be all petered out. you can take mycelium from one pretty much exhausted grow and use it to spawn an entirely new grow. in theory you could only ever need one grow's worth of spores and only ever technically work on one grow, and simply add to the substrate as needed and grow them out perpetually. i dont think this is done often at all, even by dedicated folks, but it is entirely possible and plausible, especially on a large scale.

    if you're looking at growing outdoors, too, you may be interested in growing other species than cubensis if you've got the right climate for them. i'd think about Psilocybe mexicana (either the sclerotia forming or non sclerotia forming varieties)

    different species are more likely to provide a somewhat different effect than different strains are, and are also likely to be different (usually higher) potencies than cubes. might be worth looking into for the novelty of having new types of mushrooms if for no other reason.
     
  7. geckopelli

    geckopelli Senior Member

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    Thanks- I'll pass your thoughts along.
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    I haven't been around much for a while. Due to circumstances, I've been back in the game.
    But, man, I got to tell you- I'm getting to old for this shit!
     
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