How are YOU gonna take your country back?

How are you going to stop the wave of fraudulant politicians? How are you going to stop the media's propaganda machine? How are you gonna stop these bullshit wars made by politicians who will never see a day of combat? How are you gonna end the Chemical Warfare declared by the government on its own citizens? How are you going to stop our corporations from abusing children and being responsible for impoverishing people all over the world? How are you going to end the war on the black & the poor? How are you gonna avoid being a wage slave? How are you gonna take your country back?

Are you just gonna sit back and let it happen? Or are you going to join the protests and get beaten, tear gassed, co'ed, and arrested by Pigs (only to have the president laugh at you at his ranch in texas)? Are you going to write to your congressman (and have him shit on your letter?) or are you going to try to educate the youth by holding meetings mostly attended by people who already agree with you? How the fuck are you going to change things when the Rich and Powerful are taking every measure possible to make sure you can't do shit? Are you gonna vote for a third party (when they will never win a fraudulant election)? How are you gonna do ANYTHING to make change? How long are you going to try to peacefully reform things, only to get absolutely NO WHERE and get old and grey with the same old shit happening in your country?

Coup.

The People's Army.

 

well cause i live in Canada, and i see no invasion of us soon, i will vote for the NDP and pray the Liberals [cause i don't see them getting out of power soon] don't follow your evil Government Cheney/Bush into war or something worse...

 

I have no idea. Your right though none of that crap above works instintly . In time it can though if persistant. How do you think women got rights??through protesting and writting letters and throwing fits. How do you think blacks got rights??? through writting letters, protesting and throwing fits. See these things work they just take time.


With bush and his ideas im just waiting for him to do this social secruity thing(hahaha motherfucker it better not pass) but if it does. People will be pissed, including I, we will see what happens then.


The man is out to destroy us.He dosent give a shit what most people in this country think. He only listens to his stupid, ignorant ,closeminded, hick friends who have never seen news other then fox and have not seen anything beyond there cow farm. dumb uneducated fools.

 

i love how 28 people viewed this but had nothing to say.

 

Until about half the country feels there is a need for action there is nothing to do

 

Very well said, I couldn't have said it better myself. His social security plan is a big joke, there is no doubt about that.

 

You're hinting at some unlikely shit. Don't get me wrong; I would love to see modern humans smash the locks that have been installed in their brains by mass media. People have been dumbed down to destroy their ability to create and leave only the ability to follow. The ideal sheep will gladly allow himself to be carved up and rebuilt and inserted into the machine to carry out his intended function. Through radio, television, magazines, and other forms of media, a conduit is created through which ideas can be shoved into our brains. The sheep offers no resistance, and as a result those in control are given free reign over the beliefs and personalty of the sheep. They're smart. They've discreetly reduced our intelligence and resistance to brainwashing. The only chance for anything to be done is to inform people. Problem is their brains are all locked, and the tiny percentage of people who can think on their own just aren't likely to restore the ability to think to so many empty shells of men.

 

It has been said by many people that men do not think for themselves, they let popular opinion, the media, the gov't or a combination o f the 3 to tell them what to think. I find it funny when people confuse their opinion for facts and even funnier when challenged about their beliefs, they resort to insults & namecalling & negative generalizations.


I would like to equate this to the Matrix. The general public who are the "sheep" of society are the ones who are "plugged in" to the machines. They are part of the system & most will defend their lifestyle w/o thinking about why they are doing it. The rebellion of the Matrix is comparable to the people who can think for themselves. I would like to compare the gov't, the people who control this country & the dumbed down people to the machines. This is just a loose analogy.

How can we take back the government? I believe in peaceful revolution, but that's never been particularly successful, at least in the short run. I guess the best way is education. Spread the knowledge around. Make people aware of what is happening to them. I don't know if "programmed" people will every be de-programmed, but that's where it begins. From the inside out.

Peace & Love

 

YES!!! This is the paradox of democracy; If the majority decide to allow it to die and become a totalitarian state, then it should; because democracy is all about majority rule.
If the majority has decided to settle for a comfortable lie, well then the majority hs spoken and trying to change things into something that most of the citizens obviously don't want would be an undemocratic act.

 

Mui, How is this war on the black and the poor being fought? I agree that there is still discrimination but i fail to see any "war" going on. I think African Americans probably have a good stake in this country and they have been moving back toward the republican party for the past few elections now in increasing number.

 

im not takin my country back. it was never mine and it was never not corrupt. i have no country. i obey most of its laws out of curtousy and a desire to stay out of jail, i take the passive approach to taxes and hippie harrasment. but im not delusional, this country was never great, they were always full of capitalistic murderous pigs running the show. i have no alegiance to this "country" but i have an allegiance to all mankind, but not to any of there jobs or offices. Im just a poor wayfaring stranger, travelin through this world of woe, i know no toil, no sick, no danger, in that fair land to which i go!

 

Garbage. Thoreau, in "Civil Disobedience":

"All voting is a kind of gaming, like checkers of backgammon, with a slight moral twinge to it, a playing with right and wrong, with moral questions; and betting naturally accompanies it. The character of voters is not staked. I cast my vote, perchance, as I see right, but I am not vitally concerned that right should prevail. I am willing to leave it to the majority. It's obligation, therefore, never exceeds that of expediency. Even voting for the right is doing nothing for it. It is only expressing to men feebly your desire that it should prevail. A wise man will not leave the right to the mercy of chance, nor wish it to prevail through the power of the majority. There is but little virtue in the actions of masses of men. When the majority shall at length vote for the abolition of slavery, it will be because they are indifferent to slavery, or because there is but little slavery left to be abolished by their vote. They will be the only slaves. Only his vote can hasten the abolition of slavery who asserts his freedom by his vote"

"Cast your whole vote, not a strip of paper merely, but your whole influence. A minority is powerless while it conforms to the majority; it is not even a minority then; but it is irresistable when it clogs by its whole weight"

Read the whole essay, it's far better in full than my little snippets there. It depresses me, though, because he writes that 150 years ago, and things are no different today, and arguably far worse (think nuclear warheads).

I think it sucks how everyone thinks we need to wait for a majority. If injustice is being done, we should act now to stop it, not wait for half and a bit more of the people to be on our side. It's a waste of time and a moral travesty.

Sadly, I sit here not knowing at all what to do, as my foe is so large and encompassing of every aspect of life, I can think of no way to fight it. I could possibly escape it, live a tramps life, or hermit myself in the woods, but that solves nothing for anyone but myself, and is in a sense a good man standing by while evil occurs. But to fight "the establishment" these days seems like fighting the ocean or the winds of the earth. It's so big, and I cant think of where to begin. If there is a common thread to injustice, I don't know where it lies or how to strike it.

 

The point is; in a democracy you have to wait on the majority or it's not a democracy.

You can try to influence the majority, or educate the majority (good luck there), but you can't supercede the will of the majority or it's not a democracy anymore. Even if you do it for the "right" reasons the best you'll have is a benevolent dictatorship.

 

Democracy cannot function if the populace is uninformed, misinformed, or worse, disinformed. One could argue that we do not live in a democracy at all.

And besides, we all know democracy does not mean an ethical nation. The majority wanted slavery all those years, but it was still an injustice. Maybe it comes down to what you hold dearer: adhering to the notion of democracy where it isn't functioning, or adhering to your morals and sense of justice. A benevolent dictatorship is better than a tyrannical democracy.

 

Except that "which system of goverment is best" isn't the topic of this thread.

 

The only way to get Real change in DC is to transport it to a Galaxie far, far away when all Congressional Members are present.

 

I'd vote for that.

 

True enough. Still, there has to be more we can do than vote, and I don't mean these meaningless protests, which really don't probably change peoples minds, and thanks to the media blackout, hardly even get any coverage. I mean DO something, not complain in large numbers. Maybe if we started doing stuff like in the 60s, mass sit ins, block traffic, do anything to get in the way and demand to be heard. That might work, but otherwise, we'll need new tactics. Certainly, protesting in a "free speech zone" (what does that make the rest of the country? A non-free speech zone?) is worthless.

 

--The bigest thing I could think of is to hitem in their bank. -Thats what they work out of. -I cant think of a beter way to do this than to get somma them solar panels, Im shure the fuk gonna tryem as soon as I can! -The only gas I burn comes out of my stove. -Mabey if everybody tryed workin up their FREE TIME and started commin up with ways to lessen their DEPENDANCE on what feeds them they would be forced to change or LEAVE or somekinda shit annyhow.. rite? ! -Everyones gotta keep their eyes open for opertunities for positive change, not personal gain.. -Its a mindset we gotta adopt. -Its gotta be the way we live and the way we think and the way we talk and ALL. -Fuk that dirty polititian! -Get a hybrid car or an electric one as soon as ya can! -Do all kindsa shit like that.. -Try'n stay off their grid too I guess, -Its THEIR grid. -Dont letem tellya whats popular either. -Try'n stay concious of what "assholes" are sellin ya and WHY their sellin it. -Dont go for selfish SHIT! -I think it starts in your mind. --Theirs all kindsa things you can do, you just gotta think about it. -Try to be responsible and share your views with all kindsa Folks too!

 

Well, you have a point, we can stop being compulsive consumers. Don't buy cars, though, get a bike, far less expensive, much less maintenance (much that you can do yourself), no buring of fossil fuels (which is how we get electricity for electric cars, btw). Take your money out of the banks. Buy from small shops, buy used goods when you can. Stuff like that might help, but it has to be a mass boycott to really do any good, and god knows your average fat American isn't going to give up Walmart very easily.

By the way, is your house heated by natural gas? Most are, so it's more than your stove. Alternative? I can't think of anything but to get a much smaller home and heat with wood stoves.